Kander & Ebb

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:23pm

We still have 3 unproduced K & E musicals:

Curtains
Over & Over
The Visit

4 if you count their 1 st musical never produced Golden Gate

Updated On: 1/15/06 at 05:23 PM

[jv92]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:24pm

Well Curtains is getting done.
I think there's also a show called Minstral that is getting a workshop. Mr. Kander is finishing the lyrics.

[children&art]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:27pm

what about "The Visit"?

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:27pm

Over and Over and Skin of Our Teeth are the same show.

[Pinaud]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:28pm

Skin of Our Teeth is Over & Over, which, along with The Visit, Curtains and The Minstrel Show are the Kander & Ebb shows yet to hit NYC.

[jv92]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:37pm

Thank you Pinaud! I knew it was something along the lines of The Minstral Show. I just wasn't sure if it was one word or three.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:37pm

Oops , I meant the visit. I have corrected my post Thanks

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:39pm

OVER AND OVER/SKIN OF OUR TEETH is now called ALL ABOUT US and is being presented again this week.

[jv92]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:41pm

Well that's good.

[QMAN03]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:43pm

Whill Cutains make it to broadway.

[jv92]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:55pm

Will it?
Well I hope so. I think with a big name (David Hyde Pierce) starring in it, it might. Let's cross our fingers!

[chenofan]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 5:57pm

The Visit was produced - just not on Broadway if that is what you mean.

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 6:51pm

Didn't Chita Rivera herself said she was still hoping The Visit would go on Broadway? I've read is a bit too dark which is completely expected from a Kander & Ebb show, I love the story line so I wish they released a recording of the score. Curtains sounds like it will make it, the other shows are still in limbo I believe.

[neomystyk29]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 10:14pm

I apologize for being a bit new to broadway fandom (and consequently ignorant), but would anyone be gracious enough to provide me with a list of the Kander and Ebb shows that *have* been produced?

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/15/06 at 10:24pm

From IBDB:

1 70, Girls, 70 [Musical, Book by Fred Ebb] (Apr 15, 1971 - May 15, 1971)
2 Cabaret [Musical, Book by Joe Masteroff] (Nov 20, 1966 - Sep 6, 1969)
3 Cabaret [Musical, Book by Joe Masteroff] (Oct 22, 1987 - Jun 4, 198
4 Cabaret [Musical, Book by Joe Masteroff] (Mar 19, 1998 - Jan 4, 2004)
5 Chicago [Musical, Book by Fred Ebb] (Nov 14, 1996 - Present)
6 Chicago [Musical, Book by Fred Ebb] (Jun 3, 1975 - Aug 27, 1977)
7 Chita Rivera: The Dancer's Life [Musical, Written by Terrence McNally] (Dec 11, 2005 - Present)
8 Flora, The Red Menace [Musical, Music by John Kander] (May 11, 1965 - Jul 24, 1965)
9 Fosse [Musical] (Jan 14, 1999 - Aug 25, 2001)
10 Hay Fever [Play, Written by Noël Coward] (Dec 12, 1985 - Mar 29, 1986)
11 Kiss of the Spider Woman [Musical, Book by Terrence McNally] (May 3, 1993 - Jul 1, 1995)
12 Liza [Special, Music by John Kander] ( - Jan 26, 1974)
13 Steel Pier [Musical, Book by David Thompson] (Apr 24, 1997 - Jun 28, 1997)
14 The Act [Musical, Book by George Furth] (Oct 29, 1977 - Jul 1, 197
15 The American Dance Machine [Special] (Jun 14, 1978 - Dec 3, 197
16 The Happy Time [Musical, Music by John Kander] (Jan 18, 1968 - Sep 28, 196
17 The Madwoman of Central Park West [Musical, Book by Phyllis Newman] (Jun 13, 1979 - Aug 25, 1979)
18 The Rink [Musical, Book by Terrence McNally] (Feb 9, 1984 - Aug 4, 1984)
19 Woman of the Year [Musical, Book by Peter Stone] (Mar 29, 1981 - Mar 13, 1983)
20 Zorba [Musical, Book by Joseph Stein] (Oct 16, 1983 - Sep 2, 1984)
21 Zorba [Musical, Music by John Kander] ( - Aug 9, 1969)

[RentBoy86]

Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:10am

What's "THE VISIT" about and where was it produced? I love dark musicals.

[redhotinnyc2]

Posted: 1/16/06 at 9:12am

There is a good film version of The Visit starring Ingrid Bergman, so if you see it, you'll get a good idea of the plotline.

[melissa errico fan]

Posted: 1/16/06 at 9:15am

From what I've heard from friends who have seen the readings of THE SKIN OF OUR TEETH (aka OVER AND OVER; aka ALL ABOUT US), it's going to need a hell of a lot more work before it's ready for a major New York staging.

[children&art]

Posted: 1/16/06 at 9:53am

i know a little bit about the plot of "The Visit" and "Over and Over" but what are the basic stories for "Curtains" and "The Minstrel Show"?

[melissa errico fan]

Posted: 1/16/06 at 10:08am

CURTAINS is a murder mystery set behind the scenes of a Broadway musical in the 1950s.

THE MINSTREL SHOW is about the Scottsboro Boys case. It was what they were working on at the time of Ebb's death, and Kander is apparently finishing the show himself as both composer and lyricist.

[jv92]

Posted: 1/16/06 at 10:15am

On the matter of The Visit being dark-
I don't think any Kander and Ebb show can get much darker than Kiss of the Spider Woman. Kander and Ebb were known for dark material in both dramas (Spider Woman, Cabaret, Zorba) and comedies (Chicago, the revival of Flora, the Red Menace). I don't see why that's an issue.
I think producers are just affraid of something that isn't a colorful, fun musical comedy. Hopefully, with Piazza and Color Purple being done sucessfully, maybe producers will give dramas another chance.

I'd also love to see some of their lesser known stuff get revived. I mean, we've seen "Guys and Dolls" 4 times! How about the revised script of "The Happy Time" they talked about in "Colored Lights" or even "The Rink?"
Updated On: 1/16/06 at 10:15 AM

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 1/16/06 at 10:35am

ALL ABOUT US is being presented to regional producers this week. It's not going to be done in New York.

CURTAINS has been announced for the Ahmanson this summer, but not all of the offers have gone out yet.

Updated On: 1/16/06 at 10:35 AM

[Pinaud]

Posted: 1/25/06 at 5:40pm

Looks like Over & Over/Skin of Our Teeth/All About Us has had a name change once again, as it is apparently now being called People Like Us.