Kind Hearts & Coronets

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/5/14 at 9:56am

********** Spoiler Alert**********


Watched Kind Hearts & Coronets - basis for Gentlemens - yesterday

Seems a bit dated but noticed a few things. All the murders are committed in a different manner is one observation.

Another observation was even though it is an English picture, I was surprised it used the N word a few times. More surprisingly TCM did not bleep them

Updated On: 5/5/14 at 09:56 AM

[tazber]

Posted: 5/5/14 at 11:34am

It's not the basis for Gentleman's. They couldn't get the rights to the movie.

Gentleman's is based on the novel.

[newintown]

Posted: 5/5/14 at 11:41am

"Gentleman's is based on the novel."

Only technically/legally; if you read the novel, you'll find the musical has much more in common with the movie.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 5/5/14 at 1:54pm

The n-word is really only used in one scene of KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS, toward the very end when the rhyme Eenie Meenie Minie Moe is referenced, using the apparently original words of the old rhyme about catching a "n*gger by the toe." Offensive maybe, but entirely in keeping with the time and place of the story, and the characters involved. Bleeping or censoring the word at this stage would just be silly.

[Mr. Nowack]

Posted: 5/5/14 at 2:58pm

TCM never runs edited versions of movies.

[NoName3]

Posted: 5/5/14 at 6:39pm

D'Oyly Carte did not replace the n-word in performances of The Mikado and Princess Ida until the late 1940's and even then it was not in response to offense by British audiences but from North American ones when the company was on tour.

And then there is the case of Agatha Christie's most famous work.... Updated On: 5/5/14 at 06:39 PM

[Fan123]

Posted: 5/6/14 at 5:38am

According to Wikipedia (with a reference), the original American release substituted the word 'sailor' for the n-word, among other changes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kind_Hearts_and_Coronets#American_version


Referenced book link - 'Banned in the USA'

[best12bars]

Posted: 5/6/14 at 6:19am

I love the movie "Kind Hearts and Coronets." Alec Guinness is sublime as all the male and female relatives getting bumped off, one by one.

As for Agatha Christie, that's fascinating Fan123. When I read the story ages ago, as a young teen, it was "Ten Little Indians." I never knew about its former, even more vulgar title. I also knew the little ditty that went with it. "One little, two little, three little Indians ..."

Talk about revisionist history! It always amazes me how much has been covered up.

[Fan123]

Posted: 5/6/14 at 7:39am

That one was actually NoName3 FYI. Anyway, I agree, fascinating.

[best12bars]

Posted: 5/6/14 at 7:43am

Sorry! NoName3, it is.

I was typing pre-morning-coffee. Always a questionable thing.