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Let the Pop Stars Present

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#0Let the Pop Stars Present
Posted: 6/8/04 at 2:47pm

Christy Carlson Romano
Frenchie Davis
Joey Fatone
Joey McIntyre
Melanie Griffith

Why not let THEM present and perform instead of random people like Nicole, Reneé, Tony, and Mary?
At least THEY have ties to Broadway (however inappropriate and undeserved those ties may be).


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#1re: Let the Pop Stars Present
Posted: 6/8/04 at 3:40pm

They are already taking over shows. The Tony awards dont need to be taken over too. They need to have some class and tradition, not just pop stars.

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#2re: Let the Pop Stars Present
Posted: 6/8/04 at 3:43pm

I'm just saying that they make more sense at the Tonys than Mary J. Blige and Jimmy Fallon.


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#3re: Let the Pop Stars Present
Posted: 6/8/04 at 3:44pm

Perhaps Mary J. is very secretly up for the revival of The Wiz.

Should we start the rumor here. re: Let the Pop Stars Present

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#4re: Let the Pop Stars Present
Posted: 6/8/04 at 3:45pm

Yes, but Nicole and Renee make sense. Renee because of Chicago and Nicole is going to be in The Producers movie with Matthew Broderick. They are trying to get more diverse crowd watching. What adults want to watch an ex- new kid and an ex-n'syncer.. not many.

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#5re: Let the Pop Stars Present
Posted: 6/8/04 at 4:08pm

No. Just...no.

You know who really looked out of place during the ceremony? Not Nicole Kidman (she just looked weird). Not Renee Zellwegger. It was Jimmy Fallon. As he said himself, he was a piece of MTV stuck where it didn't belong. IMHO, good movies, like the kind Zellwegger and Kidman tend to try to make, are a higher art form than pop music of the kind Joey Fatone and Co. manufacture. That's why the Grammys are the lowest of the big 4 awards shows to me.

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#6re: Let the Pop Stars Present
Posted: 6/8/04 at 4:29pm

exactly. There needs to be separation between pop stars and broadway stars. Broadway can not be taken over by pop stars.

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#7re: Let the Pop Stars Present
Posted: 6/8/04 at 4:39pm

There is nothing less relevant to the success or failure of the Tony's than who is presenting what. No one cares. At all. Even if someone DOES care they can go to eonline and see what their favorite performer was wearing, which is really all they're going to to tune in to see.

The Tony's are irrelevant because Broadway is irrelevant and that goes back to who is writing what and what is being presented on the stage every night EXCEPT the first Sunday night in June. The fate of the Tony's is sealed long before that broadcast begins.

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#8Perhaps you've noticed
Posted: 6/8/04 at 4:54pm

That the two examples you used were FILMS not stage work. Nicole (Producers) and Renee (Chicago)...NOT live theater. PLEASE can we leave the Tonys to theater people? Hey, the stage actors don't try to take over the Emmys or the Oscars.


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#9Perhaps you've noticed
Posted: 6/8/04 at 4:56pm

I wouldn't worry too much about who presented,won,lost,showed up, sat where,wore what,sang off key, etc... there wasn't anyone watching to witness any of it, anyways.

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#10Perhaps you've noticed
Posted: 6/8/04 at 5:31pm

Why should pop stars be able to take over?

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#11Perhaps you've noticed
Posted: 6/8/04 at 5:48pm

If Idina Menzel wins an Award and the Tony's and there's no one watching, did she really win anything?

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#12Perhaps you've noticed
Posted: 6/8/04 at 6:11pm

She got a pretty shiny thing, of course.

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#13Perhaps you've noticed
Posted: 6/8/04 at 6:22pm

"(however inappropriate and undeserved those ties may be)"

Um.... You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way off base there...
first of all.....

Christy Carlson Romano -- appeared in Parade BEFORE she landed Even Stevens.. back when she was totally unknown.....
Frenchie Davis -- was studying musical theatre in school and a working actress (Little Shop, JCS) BEFORE American Idol
Joey Fatone -- was acting BEFORE he landed NSYNC.. he also worked theme park shows like MANY Broadway folks today once did.... and some do now (Aladdin at California Adventure has nu,erous Broadway vets)
Joey McIntyre -- he didn't get theatre roles by his "name"... watch him perform.. he is SPOOOO not up there because of New Kids..
Melanie Griffith -- she has no business on ANY stage. That is the only one you were on base with..


I admit, I don't like several folks you listed, but you listed them for teh WRONG reason




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#14Perhaps you've noticed
Posted: 6/8/04 at 7:14pm

umm not to judge-but was there a reaso for scarlett there?? and that whole thing with sarahjessica parker was a bit odd-wear a dress thats gonna saty up honey! and what was with scarlett's hair anyways?


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#15Calm down!
Posted: 6/8/04 at 7:45pm

Okay, I did not mean for this to be an anger-inducing thread.

I just feel that as long as these people are on Broadway anyway, it's a better idea to put them into the Tonys than some of the other people that were presenting on Sunday night. That's ALL. I am not rooting for Pop stars and Hollywood types to take over the Tonys. But I bet that if you asked any of them, they would say that they are Broadway stars in their own right. They HAVE, after all, been on Broadway.

Second, since people on this board talk so much about stunt-casting to sell tickets, I see nothing wrong with bringing these "stunt-casted actors" to the Tonys to get people to tune in.

Third, broadwayguy2, I actually only put the phrase "(however inappropriate and undeserved those ties may be)" into my post to try to head off the kinds of comments that I got - ones about Pop stars taking over Broadway. I have not seen any of these performances, and therefore know that it would be inappropriate for me to judge them. I only listed the people that I did because it seems that they are always mentioned in stunt-casting threads. (For the record, I thought that Joey Fatone was great in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding", and I loved Joey McIntyre's voice in "The Fantasticks".)

I hope that in typing this, I managed to make peace and not get more people riled up.


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#16Calm down!
Posted: 6/11/04 at 10:13pm

"Joey Fatone -- was acting BEFORE he landed NSYNC.. "

Joey went to my high school and graduated a few years before I got there...but you know what? It was like he never left. He wasn't a theatre student, he was a music student but "feels that his real ties are in theatre" I was a theatre student and DPHS and let me tell you, he was there every single month that I was. He would always just show up backstage and wanna "hang out"...kind of a loser...then one day he comes by with his g/f and baby daughter (who has the cutest curly hair) but really, he just kinda brought this presence with him of "I have no life." Ooh: story time- when they did Macbeth one of the years he was there, he was macduff and he actually got hit in the head with one of the swords and when he came out at the end with the head, he was bleeding but everyone thought it was all the stage blood from the head....no, it was HIS head.
Anyway, he just did Grease here in Orlando back in Novemeber, working with the theatre teacher and a bunch of the students that graduated this year, and it sucked. so, maybe he feels like theatre is where it's at for him...and good for him...because you know what? He has no life anywhere else.


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#17Calm down!
Posted: 6/12/04 at 1:12am

How bad do you have to be to make Grease suck?


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#18Calm down!
Posted: 6/12/04 at 1:20am

You know, there was a time - not THAT long ago - when creative people were allowed to pursue expression in a variety of forms. Frank Sinatra is considered one of, if not THE, greatest singers of the last century - and he won an Oscar. Does the name Barbra Streisand mean anything to anybody? I'm so sick of hearing that just because someone has experienced success somewhere means they can't try something else. Jealousy is a TERRIBLE thing!

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#19Calm down!
Posted: 6/12/04 at 1:23am

We don't believe in letting people expand! WE WANT THEM TO STAY ON THE TREADMILL OF MUSICAL THEATRE. GO REALLY FAST THROUGH LIFE BUT ALWAYS STAY IN THE SAME PLACE!


BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"

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#20Calm down!
Posted: 6/12/04 at 1:29am

Updated On: 6/12/04 at 01:29 AM

DivaMommy
#21Calm down!
Posted: 6/12/04 at 1:49am

I guess with all these disucssions I'm confused as to why the networks think that presenters make that much of a difference. Like oooh, I'm so excited to see my favorite actor stumble out on stage and read a teleprompter for 2 minutes. I think the majority of people watch award shows because they care about the awards. I doubt that if they put all my favorite broadway actors on the Country Music Awards I would eagerly tune in. I might flip past hoping to catch a glimps of Idina handing out the award for Best Twang of the year, but mostly, I wouldn't care. It's been aptley summed up on other threads that Broadway fans watch the Tonys and they are simply not as numerous as any other genre of awarded subjects.


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