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#26

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

If you have ten minutes, you might be interested in this video made by the mother of one of the original Gustaves in the show. She was quite familiar with the version before the November changes and has just seen the new and revised version.

She still recommends the show but has problems with several of the changes, which she describes.


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#27

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

Wow! What an intelligent and eloquent lady. Great stuff. Thanks for posting it.
Faced with these Loreleis, what man can moralize!
#28

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

Wednesday 2pm Charing Cross Station, all trains cancelled, London Snowed in, what do you do? Walk 5 minutes up the road to The Adelphi get a £25 ticket for 'Love Never Dies' for the matinee showing.

"That's The Place That You Ruined, You Fool!"

A wasted opportunity to turn a very good show into a brilliant show, instead version 2 is mediocre and tries to get its improvement from the original by adding more Phantom music.

LND version 2 I thought was a lot more heavier on projections, but the start was more coherent with the Paris Opera House burning down, I thought it was a big mistake to open with the strongest song in the show song 'til I hear you sing again'.

Where V1 went with subtle hints from Phantom of the Opera, which were great, this time the show has gone over the top, which killed the show.

The big problem with LND is the ending, which didn't really get addressed, the show that follows Phantom the morbid ending just does not work, the show needs something more upbeat to close, which would be so easy to do.
#30

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

They have invited the critics back on the 20th, then. Mark Shenton jumped the gun and has already reviewed it---he likes it with the changes. It might be improved, but his writing a favorable review surprised me. He hasn't had a good word to say about it since it opened.

From the Mail article:

"A senior member of the production team told The Mail on Sunday: ‘It was quite tough for Andrew, who took the criticisms very sensitively. He knew things weren’t quite right and it lacked completion. Andrew is an utter perfectionist and will keep fine-tuning the show until he is satisfied it works.’ "

He might well be an utter perfectionist, but he isn't a very good judge of when perfection has been reached. He must have thought it was near enough to perfection when recorded the CDs, which were very nearly the whole show, months before the opening and then opened the show after minimal previews.

#31

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

Would someone post a picture of the new curtain? Thanks!
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
#32

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

I've just booked to see the show in January (my birthday treat, row B, a £67.50 ticket for £35) and can't wait. I have listened to the cast recording a few times and enjoy it.
#33

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

The problem is the Paris Opera House never burnt down in the original so now the beginning makes no sense. yes it may have done in the movie, but as I understand it in the movie they used a fictional Opera House instead of setting it in the Opera Garnier which the book and original show did and is a real building in Paris.

I still think if they followed through with the fire idea as mentioned on the CD that could have given a spectacular and exciting ending.

The LND saga reminds me of The Apprentice, us watching people make completely illogical mistakes while we shout at the tv.

LND isnt an awful show, its just not as good as it should/can/needs to be
#34

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

Hi All. This is my first post - I've been a reader for a long time, but have never posted. I have not seen LND, but have the CD and while the story is wacky (to say the least) the score is magnificent IMO.

Can anyone who has seen the 2.0 version post the order of songs, as you would re-arrange them to fit the new show? I would appreciate. I can get the song list off the website, but everything I've seen says Beauty Underneath ends the first act. I am sure The Phantom Confronts Christine still ends the first act, but since it is technically not a song, it's not listed. I know this won't give me all the changes, but I'd love to hear the cast recording in an order the more closely represents how the show is now.

I deleted That's The Place You Ruined You Fool from the beginning. IS Ayrie still in the show?

Thanks all!
#35

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

I just saw the show last night and although it is better than the first go around I still don't see why this show was created. Obviously just another money making tool to get all that ALW could out of Phantom.

The new beginning is better than the weird seen with the freaks remembering Phantasmo, but the new beginning is extremely SLOW. Also there are many points in Act 1 where it is so easy to tell what was added because unlike most of the show the added lines are unsung.

My biggest issue though is how SLOPPY this show was. You can't perfect and clean a West End show with one week of tech. I saw many mistakes by dancers, one male dancer almost forgot to catch Meg as she fell backwards and caught by two men. The gymnast in the Waltz kept falling out of their stunts. The biggest embarrassment was the horse carriage. After it came onstage empty a long pause happened as they waited for the windows to tint, which didn't happen, so the freaks crawled out of the trunk seats seen by the audience. So awkward.

I was under the impression that this wasn't a preview but after seeing it last night I am mad I payed full price for this mess. Than I read that they aren't inviting the press back til Dec 20th, sounds like a preview to me.

Don't think this show is gonna be running much longer. All of the Upper Circle was moved to the Dress Circle and the audience was still pretty uncrowded.
#36

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

I really wish there were more photos of the show that included the set. Most of the few photos that are out there are not of the entire set. Were any changes made to the set for the new version?
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
#37

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

Theatre Review – Love Never Dies (Adelphi Theatre, 8th January 2011)

It has been a few months since I saw Love Never Dies for the first time, and in the time since, it has closed for 4 days and been rewritten. Thus, going to see the show last week, I was in fact going to see Love Never Dies “Version 2.”

Love Never Dies (now perhaps famously) continues the story of the most successful musical in the world: The Phantom of the Opera. The action takes place ten years after the original ended when The Phantom has moved to Coney Island and set up “Phantasma” perhaps the first ‘theme park’ and Christine (now married to Raoul, Vicomte de Chagny and with a son, Gustave) is booked to open Oscar Hammerstein’s brand new opera house in New-York City. Of course, The Phantom finds out and tries to win Christine back from Raoul, finding out some secrets along the way about Gustave and ultimately giving her a choice: She either sings for him at Phantasma or he will take her son.

The tension is high and the drama intense throughout and the characters are played so effortlessly by the leading cast, who have such a solid relationship that you never once feel nervous or anxious that they get something right. Ramin Karimloo shines as The Phantom, his strong, lyrical voice carrying through the theatre and directly into the hearts of his audience. Other leads Joseph Millson as Raoul and Celia Graham (on for Sierra Boggess as Christine) also gave phenomenal performances, with Millson delivering such fine acting as well as beautiful singing in ‘Why Does She Love Me?’ And Graham’s performance of the title song being the highlight of the performance (deservedly getting the largest mid-act ovation I have ever encountered.)

The supporting cast hold their own too, with Liz Robertson (not working with the most melodic music to be fair) creating the jealousy-filled adviser to The Phantom and the manager of Phantasma, Madame Giry and Jessica Kirton (on for Summer Strallen) as her daughter Meg, previous long-time friend of Christine at the Paris Opera and headline act at Phantasma.

The changes to the show have further tightened the action, making the narrative flow better, and making the story a lot easier to follow. There is now more background (the opening now shows the Paris Opera house burning down) and indeed the story is now more believable - rather than being lured to New York City by mysterious Mr. Y (The Phantom in disguise) it is now plausible that Christine might go and open Oscar Hammerstein’s opera. Another welcome addition is more music and themes from The Phantom of the Opera. We now hear the (famous) chord progression heard at the end of the original at places during Love Never Dies, and one song that has been reborn with new lyrics in Love Never Dies is ‘Stranger than You Dreamt It’. The first time we see The Phantom in Love Never Dies, he is also kissing the ring which Christine returned to him the night she left him for Raoul ten years previously.

Whilst some songs are removed, what made Andrew Lloyd-Webber’s score the best of the last decade in West-End theatre still remains – The opening song is now The Phantom’s ballad ‘Til I Hear You Sing’ (which was well-received, as always by the audience) and the show continues to produce well-received songs from lush romantic string-filled duets (Look With Your Heart, Once Upon Another Time) to burlesque-inspired show numbers (Bathing Beauty) and the typical Andrew Lloyd Webber aria Love Never Dies (which, incidentally is a far better fit in this show than in previous show The Beautiful Game.)

Bob Crowley’s set and costume designs, Paule Constable’s lighting designs and Mick Potter’s sound design remain largely unchanged from my last visit – and with good reason too – they were perfect.
Moderations to the book and Jack O’Brien’s original direction by Bill Kenwright were welcome – making the show less static and although Bill Deamer’s revisions of Jerry Mitchell’s choreography were not actually necessary, they did not take away from the production.

The best changes, however, lie in Charles Hart’s revision of the lyrics. We know from his beautiful words from The Phantom of the Opera that Charles Hart really is a master of the romantic lyric, and so, he has revised some Glenn Slater’s awkward lyrics and has written some original ones of his own. One addition not necessary, however, was the addition of lyrics and choreography in The Coney Island Waltz – this being another part that was perfect to begin with.

All things considered, Love Never Dies is still the best original musical in the West-End and with some of the long-runners looking tired now; it might be the best bet for any London theatregoer. The changes have improved the already amazing show to now make it phenomenal.

5*

Updated On: 1/17/11 at 05:31 PM

#38

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

And to think that there will be yet another totally different version (new Director, Choreographer, new Designer) when this show opens in Melbourne in May. Is this the most tampered with show since Broadway's THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL ?
#40

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

Is this the most tampered with show since Broadway's THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL ?

Since Scarlet Pimpernel? Perhaps, but that's not much more than most shows are adjusted during previews and even after opening (the CD was recorded and released before the show was staged, correct?). You'll be hard-pressed to find a Lloyd-Webber show that still duplicates the original cast recording.

It hasn't beaten Jekyll and Hyde or Martin Guerre yet.

Neither of which has beaten Candide or Chess.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#41

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

What a lot of people don't remember is that the recording of Love Never Dies never claims to be 'an original London Cast Recording' or anything similar. Yes, it is a 'cast recording' but it is billed as the "World Premier Symphonic Recording" and is really just a concept album like EVITA or Jesus Christ Superstar.
#42

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

Silly people who bought it thinking it would reflect what people were seeing in the theater.
The original Phantom of the Opera CDs are still quite close to what is performed on stage. The natural contrast of these two Phantom recordings is rather striking even though other ALW shows changed quite a bit after the recordings were made.
#43

Love Never Dies - Version 2.0

The difference is The Phantom of the Opera is an OLC. It is a recording of the stage show, not a concept recording.

Funny that most of the time, hype for a recording is generated by the show. In many Andrew Lloyd-Webber cases, hype for the show has been generated by the recording.

I think he was planning to settle the show before it lands on Broadway, then do an OBC which would be a representation of the show as it appears onstage.

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