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Lumiere Blows Up

Lumiere Blows Up

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Mr. Tuttle
#0Lumiere Blows Up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 1:46am

Ok..not really. Just tabloid journalism.

But I was thinking..how do they keep the actor from getting burned? What do they use for the flame?

And I can just see some stupid community theater in Arkansas doing the show.
"Joe..just put more gasoline in it...it'll be cool!"


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munkustrap178
#1re: Lumiere Blows Up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 1:49am

It's a real flame. His hands are under it and the fabric is fireproof.


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Mr. Tuttle
#2re: Lumiere Blows Up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 1:53am

Have any actors got burned?


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CattleCall
#3re: Lumiere Blows Up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 1:53am

Didn't Gary Beach's arm catch on fire during one of the performances though? Or am I just completely making that up?


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papalovesmambo
#4re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 10:09am

oh, gary beach was flaming all right...


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broadwayguy2
#5re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 10:09am

hahahaha

timote316
#6re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 11:00am

lmao

erikaamato
#7re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 11:08am

FYI, I saw the first California regional production a few months ago (they were using all the sets and costumes from the Witchita production, which was I believe was the very first regional production, period). Anyway, they used some sort of super-light silky fabric all in oranges and reds and yellows to look like flames, and they were somehow blown upwards by fans rigged into the hands of the costume. It looked great, and they won't be burning anybody. re: lumiere blows up

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#8re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 12:17pm

haha on the flaming homo comment.

Unknown User
#9re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 12:27pm

They have those cool things that look like flames.....

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Amneris
#10re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 12:53pm

i'd assume it's the same kind of fake fire they use in Phantom.

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HeartinNYC
#11re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 12:58pm

Yes, actually Gary Beach's torch arms did catch fire during one performance. I remember an interview where he said that it was utter panic for a few moments!


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papalovesmambo
#12re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 1:12pm

lumiere on broadway and on tour is on fire. real. live. flames.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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erikaamato
#13re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 1:41pm

papalovesmambo: Right. I'm not disputing that. I was just replying to Mr. Tuttle's "And I can just see some stupid community theater in Arkansas doing the show.
'Joe..just put more gasoline in it...it'll be cool!'" They obviously were concerned about that when they were building the new costumes in Witchita, and found a way around using real flames. So, that's good news for anyone who rents those costumes for the new batch of regional productions. Which have just started. Not to be confused with the tour. =)

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Karma76
#14re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 3:04pm

off disney's site

Lumiere's hands are made of a flameproof plastic surrounding a flame device that uses one ounce of liquid butane per hand per show. In the last ten years it has burned 700 pounds of butane.

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Mr. Tuttle
#15re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 3:07pm

Did someone tell Gary Beach that it was suppose to be flame proof?


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saddle shoe side kick
#16re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 3:12pm

in the book Making It On Broadway I think its Susan Egan who told a story about how Gary caught fire and the audience thought it was part of the show.


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Mr. Tuttle
#17re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 3:20pm

And Gary is still flaming on stage


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#18re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 7:22pm

this is completely random, but, my best friends grandfather is the voice of Lumiere in the movie of Beauty and the Beast and I think he woudl get the BIGGEST kick out of this topic!


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dancinfan
#19re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 7:31pm

Yeah, the butane canisters are in pockets on the actor's back, and there are tubes that run down his sleeves to the candles on his hands. With a two-part flick of his fingers and thumbs, he opens the tubes and then presses an ignition switch (not unlike the electric ignition on a gas stove or a stun gun), sparking the butane and creating real falmes. They are fairly cool flames, and the pyro staff have the ability to make the flames taller or shorter depending on the comfortability of the actor. I may have this wrong, but what happened to Gary Beach very early on was that the fire actually backed up one of the tubes. Once the apparatus was redesigned to keep that from happening (and to be lighter-weight), everything was much safer. In addition, EVERY prop, costume, set, and wig is flameproofed. That doesn't mean they won't burn eventually, but the reatrdant slows down the process to the point that the actors could get help before being burned. Aside from other fireworks in the show, the torches that are carried in the Mob Song are also live flames fueled by butane in the base of each torch.

The other time that someone actually came close to getting burned in the Broadway company was when Harrison Beal, playing the Young Prince in the Prologue, got hit by the Enchantress' fireball, which is a live throw every performance. The pyro device landed on his shoulder in his long wig. Terrence Mann reached out with his big rubber Beast glove and doused it before it could do any damage. The smell of melting wig onstage was terrible, though.

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Mr. Tuttle
#20re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 7:55pm

Thank you, Dancinfan. You really seem to know what is happening with the show.

And I think we all know how much it hurts to be hit by an Enchantress' fireball.


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GovernorSlaton
#21re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 8:33pm

"this is completely random, but, my best friends grandfather is the voice of Lumiere in the movie of Beauty and the Beast and I think he woudl get the BIGGEST kick out of this topic!"

Jerry Orbach?

scottwalker
#22re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 9:10pm

From the Disney website... It took a year and a half to develop the The Enchantress' fireball and it is the first known throwable hand-held device of its kind. She can hold the ball of fire in her hand until it burns out without any physical damage.
A couple of weeks ago it did seem to land closer to James Tabeek (plays the young prince in the beginning) then normal.Blew up right at his feet.re: lumiere blows up
I guess that is also why they have the 'see thru curtain' in parts where there is fire.To keep the audience safe...

saddle shoe side kick
#23re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/16/04 at 9:16pm

Disney and their magic... re: lumiere blows up


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Mr. Tuttle
#24re: lumiere blows up
Posted: 11/17/04 at 12:58am

GovernerSlaton..how do you know it's Jerry Orbach? Did she say it was? Did she name him? No..she didn't.

This is exactly how rumors begin.


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