Riedel's Fish Tales
Riedel's Fish Tales
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
Riedel's Fish Tales#1
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:01am
Read the article on the latest news above.
Very interesting.
If TARZAN does close at the end of the Summer and BEAUTY will also be gone, it leaves a fading LION KING, a limping POPPINS and a Fish tale with little advance.
What's going on with the Mouse that once roared, who'd making these decisions?
And why are they waiting so long to announce the MERMAID casting?
(Becaust the two leads will make everyone go "WHO?")
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#2
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:21amI hear they're putting all their money into Pirate Queen 2: Dead Man's Jest
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#2
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:22am
What's going on is that Lion King was an artistic triumph and left many naysayers admitting that Disney could indeed pull off a show that is more than a theme park attraction. They have yet to match that level of excellence however. BATB skewed young, and Tarzan is just plain awful.
As the say in Hollywood - you're only as good as your last performance.
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#3
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:22amLion King and Mary Poppins both have averaged %87.4 attendence in the last two months, and considering these arethe worst months in the season, perhaps you should back off on the "fading" and "limping" comments. Most producers and theatre owners would say that these shows still have life in them.
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#4
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:25amWell, I'm sure half of the Lion King cast is limping from wearing wooden costumes. I wonder what the Dr's bills are like for that show...
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#5
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:36amMy problem with Disney isn't that it exists. I'm a supporter of Disney, in theory, because of the whole argument for exposing children to theater and so forth. My problem with Disney is that where it used to produce things that were truly beautiful -- AIDA had problems, but the physical production was beautiful, Beauty was eye-popping theater at its best before the scale-down and The Lion King's design is genius, IMO -- but now it seems like they're just slapping things together to get them in there as fast as possible. Look at Tarzan. I refuse to believe that Disney of all companies didn't have the resources to create a production of Tarzan that was on par with some of its other things, but instead it's a mess. It's sloppy. Now we have The Little Mermaid coming in, and it's on some sort of turbo fast-track to Broadway. I can't imagine a production so physically complex will be all that intricately done in such a short period of time. Disney, to me, is losing a lot of the artistic integrity I think it did once have. It needs that back if it expects to maintain its status in the long run, because even the most naive of tourists will catch on to the fact that the quality is suffering.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/16/05
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#7
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:39amI love that she got the idea for the Heelys from seeing kids in the airport. Were the kids fish children?
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#9
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:41amEven for mermaids? How are they going to get around?
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#10
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:43amUsing their bouncy tails, duh.
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#11
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:44am
That's an idea Rath! Remember those pogo balls in the early 90's? I smell cross-promotion!
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#12
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:50amActually Em, Mermaid has been in development for years. Matthew Bourne was attached, quit because they didn't like his concept, so they had to find a new director. Zambello has been with the project for a few years.
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#13
Posted: 3/7/07 at 10:58amRight, I know. I mean this particular (frightening to think of) version. Even a "few" years for something like this seems kind of quick, to me. I'm sorry, but I think it's going to look ridiculous. I'm also pissed that they're likely bastardizing my favorite film of all time, but 'tis another story.
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#14
Posted: 3/7/07 at 11:03amDoes it hurt when you run into plexi glass on heelys?
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#15
Posted: 3/7/07 at 11:31am
Michael Eisener was really the driving force behind making Disney a theatrical force on Broadway. He was the person who brought in Julie Taymor and gave her open reign, because he wanted Disney to have an unqualified artistic hit.
Disney hasn't been concerned with having an artistic hit on Broadway in a long time: though clearly, as this article states, they should be realizing that with the current cost of Broadway tickets, tourists are a lot more careful and word of mouth is even more important than a Disney brand.
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#16
Posted: 3/7/07 at 12:11pmMichael Eisener may have been good for Disney on Broadway but he was a detriment to all other parts of the company. You don't need to have the person at the top take the lead to ensure quality wins out, just a passionate, supported division head. John Lasseter is a great example of this. This is more likely an issue with Schumacher then it is Iger.
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#17
Posted: 3/7/07 at 12:24pm
I agree with luv. I also find it iritating that
A. Tourists think Disney show are, by default, the best thing on Broadway.
B. It encourages theatre-ettiquitte-less parents to bring kids who are too young for theatre.
C. Anything with DISNEY branded all over it automatically sells, not matter what the actual quality of the show is. (Hurrah if that is truely changing)
D. They have an aura of "We're the best thing to happen to Broadway since Oklahoma!"
E. They refuse to bring "Der Glockner" over because they're afraid of alienating their family base.
I've only seen Mary Poppins, but I found that show to be a very pretty mess.
It just seems that they're more concerned with the buisness of making spectacal, and not "the art of making art".
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/15/05
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#18
Posted: 3/8/07 at 3:14pmI think Mermaid is going to be a mess. Plexiglass and rollerskates? Wow. That's like doing Tarzan with bungee cords, oh wait.
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#19
Posted: 3/8/07 at 3:17pm
<< Heelys should be banned from Airports.
And shopping malls !! I HATE those things !!
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#20
Posted: 3/8/07 at 4:20pm
I really don't want to speculate on a production that I've never seen, and frankly one that hasn't even started; but I just hope that Disney does not ruin the whole concept of The Little Mermaid. Not only is it one of my favorite Disney movies; its the film that put the whole Disney franchise back on the map. They need to remember this, and some how or another keep Howard Ashman's lyrics alive.
On another note; heely's are SOO freaking annoying! I don't get how little kids think there cool.
Broadway Star Joined: 11/13/06
re: Riedel's Fish Tales#21
Posted: 3/8/07 at 4:32pm
As excited as I am for this production and those attached to the roles of Ursula, Triton, and Scuttle... I know it could go either way. Little Mermaid IS and always will be my favorite Disney movie of all time and if this musical is the most beautiful Disney production since The Lion King, great! If its not, well, i'll just remain clinging to the movie. (IMO, Tarzan wasn't a great movie, nor an incredibly popular one from what i remember, and was an extremely odd choice to turn into a Broadway show.)
If you ask the average joe of this generation to name the first three Disney movies that come to their mind, they would be Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, and the Little Mermaid more times than not. The first two were, in their heyday (hayday? Oh well.), considered stunning pieces of theatre. I'm hoping and am leading myself to believe that Disney will follow-up these classics with the next great spectacle.
- Eeyore
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