Saycon in Wicked — Page 2

I thought Ebonics was colloquial black English. I also was under the impression that Sycon was from the Caribbean.

Updated On: 3/13/12 at 06:56 PM

oh geez. WHY does Elphaba need to be "white"? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY? What does that have to do at all with the character???? And furthermore the only thing stopping Glinda from being played by a black actress is her blonde hair. Bc that would just look dumb.

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Updated On: 6/29/05 at 07:49 PM

That's not ebonics though. That may be called "black sass" or "ghetto attitude" but it will never be ebonics.

Ebonics = The Snoop Dogg Language.

Fo Shizzle, yo!

Bella i agree with you. Well said.
But really, just because someone sounds "soulful" doesn't mean they sound "black." What is "sounding black" anyways?

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Updated On: 6/29/05 at 09:42 PM

WickedCats is in the hizzle yo.

Edit: Sorry I had to do that. Something just came over me.

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Updated On: 6/29/05 at 09:54 PM

Elphaba is really a character that can be anything. When you look at her, she isn't white, she isn't black, so you can't automatically stereotype her. The actress playing her gets to make this character her own, being that it's like, "Okay, she's a WASP," or, "She's half white, half black," or anything like that. This is a character that can really go in any direction. She can have sass, she can be more proper, she can be sarcastic, and the actress playing her has so much to work with. So I don't think it makes any difference that Saycon is black, being that she is the standby for a reason. She is a talent, as are Sho, Idina, and any other actresses that have played Elphaba. They all make the character their own, and it's kind of unfair to stereotype a character which is about BREAKING stereotypes.

Y'know what I'm saying?

Well, JMO.

heart.
mel

I saw her first day as Elphie...second performance *evening :)*

She is my least favorite out of the four I've seen. I rate vocally/acting/overall in this order
1.Stephanie
2.Jenna
3.Ana
4.Saycon

JMO

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I don't know, I do think Glinda is race specific, which is fine because there are plenty of other roles out there which are race specific and NOT white. However, Elphaba is NOT. At all.

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I don't really understand the whole 'gospel/soul' thing. I know that a lot of black singers have that , but then when you think about other performers it's hard to tell. As many people said Shoshana is white, but has a 'soulful' voice. The is also Brian Stokes Mitchell and Audra McDonald. If you didn't know they were black and listened to a recording they could be white how would you know. Plus there are a heck of a lot of black (and people of other nationalities) that sing opera. The voice doesn't need to matter really. She was given the part because she can do it and that's that!

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I've never been rendered sputteringly speechless after reading a post on this board, but I guess there's a first time for everything.

"But her mother, father, and sister are all white so she probably was`nt brought up like a ghetto black person(if that is the right word)"

I...I don't think that's the word. No. Not really.

Are you intending to call Saycon a ghetto black person? Or just her interpretation of Elphaba? What exactly is a ghetto black person, and could you PLEASE point me to something in Saycon's portrayal that sounds your ghetto alarm? Someone who doesn't sound white? I'm trying as hard as I can NOT to read this post as incredibly racist and offensive, but it's just not working.

Elphaba is green. She's not white. And one of the points of this show, other than "ooooh, shiny and belting!" is that "some of us are different." Some of us aren't white, and we're not going to apologize for not fitting into your rigid definition of what "non-ghetto" is. And, while we're at it, have you taken a close look at Ben Vereen lately? Might wanna get the ghetto police on him, too.

Updated On: 6/30/05 at 11:16 PM

WARNING: I'm not racist! so don't try to tell me I am.

but...Saycon IS a ghetto black girl...have you seen her website? Her normal music is very R&B/hip hop ghettoness. It's not a bad thing! it's just...she is :)

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