THE STRIKE 101 -- WHAT THEY ARE FIGHTING ABOUT- Page 2

[paphillyguy]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 4:38pm

Fosse,

I make a very good living. You keep on bring up about getting called in to change a lightbulb and you say I am illogical. I do have a problem with if one person needs to stay for overtime, everyone get paid. I do have a problem with it might take 10 day of carpentery then the others that worked 6 days all get paid for 10.

Also, to have to pay extra because someone has to do what they consider a duty outside their work duties is not the way it works in the non union working world. I do many tasks that I might consider outside my normal duties and do not get anything extra.
Updated On: 11/14/07 at 04:38 PM

[Mooo]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 4:41pm

"The largest of these "younger generation" producers happens to be Clear Channel and Robert Sillerman of SFX. Sillerman is the one who is refusing to post grosses for YF. "

One NYC Stagehand - Thanks so much for that info. It is very important for people to realize who we are fighting here. Not some poor producer but the same company that is slowing taking over all forms of entertainment. I was stunned by their Broadway credit list.
I guess when you own every radio station and concert venue in the country you need to save every penny you can. If only they could find a way to ship the stagehand jobs to China they really would be sitting pretty.

[Tkt2Ride]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 5:14pm

Ah yes and guess who is double dipping here? Sillerman is Mel Brooks partner on Young Frankenstein. So he isn't losing much and damn if he isn't profiting from this strike!!

This boost YF slagging sales. I wonder how Roger Bart is doing these days? I hope he has great health insurance because he will surely need it in the future.

Just goes to show how some Americans do business in this Town. Why I'd swear Sillerman, the Waltons of Walmart fame and Perot are all just partying it up while the Actors, Tech have to walk the picket line.

This just makes me ill. Remembering all of those fancy pictures of Mel dancing around, the big Man of the day at the Opening and the prices they are charging.

People please make a serious note of this fact. Especially when you are choosing what shows you really want to support.

Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap...

[localonecrew]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 10:08pm

seems that a producer who wanted to be on the negotiating group and who got shut out did some research on the big time union busting lawyers that the league hired. found out that of the 16 unions they were hired to bust they lost in all 16 cases. of course the league had never looked into this. it is consistent with the way they run their shows. when the lawyers record was presented to some members of the league, mr. schonfeld(sp?) and disney decided it was time to get involved. they shut down the upstarts and called local one and set up a meeting for saturday. seems the radical frankel-libin-mccormick troika has finally been backseated and now the old guard is stepping up to do what is right for all parties.

[leko2]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 10:08pm

I'm a little confused. If I work two eight hour days days loading in a show at a Nederlander theater, two eight hour days days at a Jujamcyn theater,and 40 hours at a Shubert theater, how much overtime do I get?

[localonecrew]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 10:11pm

none

[thetinymagic2]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 11:40pm

I'm curious about the "contracts" Local 1 guys have with the independent theaters that are NOT dark currently. What's the differential? It's seems when those shows close, it might be very difficult to find work in this town again...do they care? Is a non-union employee screwed forever?

[localonecrew]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 11:44pm

those other houses are not non-union. they have signed contracts independent of the league.

[thetinymagic2]

Posted: 11/14/07 at 11:53pm

I worded my Q incorrectly. The "non union" employees? I am in the IATSE (smaller Local) and was always very astounded how Disney, etc. (and others) got away with using non-union people. I feel my Local's Business Mgr. at the time did a crappy, pathetic job at trying to establish and negotiate union contracts for all those theaters. The union busting tactics started a Looooong time ago. What's your take?

[leko2]

Posted: 11/15/07 at 12:17am

localonecrew: Exactly.

It seems that the NY Times article wasn't as precise as they could have been about how overtime is calculated.

[bugmenot]

Posted: 11/15/07 at 12:23am

> I'm a little confused. If I work two eight hour days days loading
> in a show at a Nederlander theater, two eight hour days days at a
> Jujamcyn theater,and 40 hours at a Shubert theater, how much
> overtime do I get?

OH! Such loaded questions! How about if the "show call" is actually a 4-hour call of 6:30-10:30 and then after wednesday or thursday your work triggers an FLSA violation with a two-year statute of limitations on claims?

http://www.google.com/search?q=FLSA&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

golly. nobody's talking about THAT, are they....

not yet, anyway.

[kasim]

Posted: 11/15/07 at 7:59am

Wow after reading that article. Their are SOOOO many points they do not seem close to at all.

This seems like this could very easily take a while.

I mean i guess they almost HAVE to solve it soon or they are hurting each other too much ... but this very muhc seems like for all the marbles type situation.

[kasim]

Posted: 11/15/07 at 8:03am

" I do many tasks that I might consider outside my normal duties and do not get anything extra. "

-- i have to admit that REALLY un-nerved me as well.

I am a consultant by trade. And i CONSTANTLY do work that i was not assigned to do.

For example ... i was paid in June to go to NYC to teach a software class for a company. Well ... they didnt really want to do the "lab work" ... they'd rather me help them implement those examples in their code.

I explained to the guy ... hey i have x amount of things to present, with y amount of time for lab. However, if you want me to divert attention to something else, its your dime and go ahead. And so i did.