TONYS Aren't Everything — Page 2
#27
Posted: 3/30/05 at 6:49pm
So I see Tonya has come back to start another ridiculous argument. Yes we know Tonya, we are all haters and racists.
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#28
Posted: 3/30/05 at 6:53pm
Phylicia Rashad gave the commencement speech at my college last year. Her whole speech was about 2 minutes long, where she all talked about was being a TV mom, and she was paid an obscene quantity of money for just that. Previous years speakers included Bill Clinton and Rudy Giuliani, so it was clearly disappointing to the graduating class.
So after I saw the Tonys last year, I just figured that she probably wasn't the best at making speeches.
So after I saw the Tonys last year, I just figured that she probably wasn't the best at making speeches.
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#29
Posted: 3/30/05 at 6:55pm
I am new to the TONYA postings...
But some things are not always as easily boiled down to the argument of race Tonya...it may be an easy excuse, but really, is it always the answer? In this case, NO!
But some things are not always as easily boiled down to the argument of race Tonya...it may be an easy excuse, but really, is it always the answer? In this case, NO!
#30
Posted: 3/30/05 at 6:56pm
drew - tell that (your original posting) to Tovah Feldshuh. A true Broadway legend whose Tony was ripped from her hands by a TV star for ratings. And don't think it wasn't. I'm not saying Rashad is not a good actress - but we all know why she won over Feldshuh, and it wasn't because she was "better."
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Updated On: 3/30/05 at 06:56 PM
#31
Posted: 3/30/05 at 6:57pm
I just wanted to take this moment to say how dissapointed I was last year with the presenters of the "Best Featured Actor in a Musical" category. "Raul Esparaza"??? Who the hell is that?!
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#32
Posted: 3/30/05 at 6:57pm
It's not Rashad's fault she's black...but it is her fault that she comes off as an arrogant, selfish person
#33
Posted: 3/30/05 at 7:03pm
Ugh, Rashad's acceptance speech last year was the most contrived and ostentatious thing I have ever heard.
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#34
Posted: 3/30/05 at 7:05pm
So true cream puff...hahaha can't type that name without a chuckle
oh go shave your facial hair!
#37
Posted: 3/30/05 at 7:52pm
Wilson Jermaine Heredia won a tony in 96 and after he won said something like "a tony aint sh*t it doesnt guarantee work"
how many times has he worked after Rent?
2 movies not including Rent
2 tv show
1 song written for Sesame St
how many times has he worked after Rent?
2 movies not including Rent
2 tv show
1 song written for Sesame St
Updated On: 3/30/05 at 07:52 PM
#38
Posted: 3/30/05 at 7:58pm
lol. Marilyn, you make me laugh
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#39
Posted: 3/30/05 at 8:03pm
Ghetto, I don't believe anyone ever said a Tony was a guarantee of future work. It's supposed to be a recognition of merit for the job it was won for. Theater is highly competitive - many many more people want to make a living at it than there are jobs. It's just that kind of business.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#40
Posted: 3/30/05 at 8:04pm
everyones a little bit racist sometimes, doesnt mean we go around commiting hate crimes
sorry everytime I see the word racist I just have to sing that lol
sorry everytime I see the word racist I just have to sing that lol
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#41
Posted: 3/30/05 at 8:07pm
It's amazing how a "discussion" about Tony's (which, by the way, was started in a most confronational manner) has dissolved into a petty argument about race (also, by the way, achieved by the same poster who began this topic). I'm sure none of us feels threatened by the fact that a black woman is successful in theatre. The preoccupation with racism is one of the reasons that it still exists. The majority of people today are not racist, and those who do harbor feelings of racism and subsequently voice that opinion or act out are so shunned by society that their views become almost comical.
Awards are nice.
People who do good things should be rewarded.
Phylicia Rashad is extremely pompous and absurd.
Awards are nice.
People who do good things should be rewarded.
Phylicia Rashad is extremely pompous and absurd.
#42
Posted: 3/30/05 at 8:55pm
Maybe someone already posted this, but as said in the book, "Making it on Broadway", "the base of the Tony is plasic." -Patti LuPone
#43
Posted: 3/30/05 at 9:39pm
Whatever you feel about Rashaad, I can bet that you did NOT see her performance in A Raisin in the Sun. It was one of the most moving performances I have ever seen on a Broadway stage. She deserved that award. She also accepted it with elegance and grace. Do Not confuse Pompous with Sophistication.
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"No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one."
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#44
Posted: 3/30/05 at 9:58pm
exactly justice. thats why im not worried about it. i didnt start this thread as a confrontation. i dont care what anybody thinks. i posted what i posted.if u decided to respond thats your business. and to correct some misunderstandings. i didnt say everybody's a racist and a hater. i never stated that. i said "some people on this board". not all. if it doesn't apply to u, then dont respond. and i didnt say that Tonys arent anything. I said they werent everything. a lot of people have the misconception that if it/she/he won a Tony that doesn't mean it's good. that's my opinion.
and yes Rashad's Tony was well deserved and it was a historic moment and she accepted the award with grace and class. qualities she exudes at all times because that's the type of woman she is. you may not like her.you may not love her. but she deserves her RESPECT.
and yes Rashad's Tony was well deserved and it was a historic moment and she accepted the award with grace and class. qualities she exudes at all times because that's the type of woman she is. you may not like her.you may not love her. but she deserves her RESPECT.
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#45
Posted: 3/30/05 at 9:58pm
Did you see every nominated performance in the category, Justice?
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#46
Posted: 3/30/05 at 10:01pm
Rath, i did not. But, i didn't vote, either.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive.
"Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot."
"No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one."
Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#47
Posted: 3/30/05 at 10:05pm
You all owe me three minutes of my life back for attempting to read this utter garbage of a thread.
#48
Posted: 3/30/05 at 10:05pm
No, you didn't vote, Justice, but you did say definitively that she "deserved" the award. How can you know she deserved it if you didn't see the other women?
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#49
Posted: 3/30/05 at 10:08pm
Because she did a great job on the stage. That proved her deserving. If she was awful and had won, then that means she wouldn't have deserved the award. i.e. IMO, Take Me Out did not deserve the Tony.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive.
"Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot."
"No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one."
Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#50
Posted: 3/30/05 at 10:09pm
But you can't say she deserved it over the others if you didn't see them.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
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