The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
#0The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/25/05 at 4:55pm
We were discussing THE GLASS MENAGERIE in class today, particularly about Tennessee Williams' original script (the one you can get in stores) versus the acting version, which omits Williams' captions. My professor is of the opinion that the captions are important to distance the audience from the action onstage and to view it more critically (very Brechtian), while without the captions the play is just a sentimental soap opera.
Maybe I have a penchant for the sentimental, but I've always loved the melodrama of THE GLASS MENAGERIE. I was a little taken aback by her views, since the play is so rarely performed as Williams originally imagined it. What do you all think?
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:06pmYour professor sounds like an asshole.
#2re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:11pm
No no, she's a well-respected expert in modern drama and even edited the Modern Drama journal for a number of years. She holds Williams in a very high regard, which is why she's never understood why THE GLASS MENAGERIE is not performed as Williams originally intended it, with self-reflective (and often ironic) captions and images projected onto a screen.
I disagree with her, but I'd like to hear your points, as avid theatregoers. What is your opinion on Williams' original captions, and why do you think they were abandoned, yet preserved in the published edition of the play?
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:14pmI still don't understand what you're talking about.
MargoChanning
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/5/04
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:15pmWow, Magruder, you're an avid teenager again!
#5re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:22pmYeah, she edits drama journals and criticizes masterworks, while Tennessee Williams writes The Glass Menagerie at the age of 34. F*CK her and the horse she rode in on.
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:25pmWhy the anger? Is it just me, or did his teacher criticize NOTHING?
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:28pm
I still don't understand what you're talking about.
The play, as published, features stage directions that describe captions and images projected onto a screen; the captions are usually lines spoken by a character, or images relevant to the scene (eg. when Laura talks about being called "Blue Roses," a picture of blue roses gets projected).
In the production notes, Williams states that the purpose of the projected captions is to illuminate certain themes that may not be immediately clear and to invoke a particular emotional response from the audience. However, the original production eliminated these projects, with Williams' approval. However, Williams published the play with the captions included. There are thus two scripts of THE GLASS MENAGERIE: the "reading" script, and the "acting" script.
All major productions have likewise omitted the captions. Personally, I find the captions silly, to the point of mockery (when Laura finds out that her high school crush is coming to dinner, the caption "Not Jim!" appears), but my professor holds them to high regard, saying they offset the sentimentality of the play.
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:29pmShe's saying that without the captions, the play is a sentimental soap opera, which it's not. And the anger is directed at all of the genius revisionist professors who take swipes at masterworks, when they are incapable of ever contributing anything creative to the world at large.
#9re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:31pm
The teacher criticized SOMETHING - That there are some productions that aren't loyal to Tennessee's original intent. If anything, the teacher is honoring the masterworks, and wishing they stayed true to the author's original work.
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:31pm
Alright, that's what I thought, I thought it was something more drastic, due to the way Magruder was acting. Drama queen!
I agree - the captions come across as mockery and would insult my intelligence as an audience member.
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 5:34pmSo, back on topic: most critics have found Williams' justifications for the captions inadequate (his production notes regarding the device are pretty vague), but are still convinced of their importance. What is your opinion of them? Also, I love THE GLASS MENAGERIE -- it's my favourite Williams play -- but I can see my professor's point: what is in the play that makes it rise above a simple, sentimental drama? Is it the metatheatrical conceit?
Dollypop
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#12re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/25/05 at 6:08pmThe Jessica Tandy/Amanda Plummer production of the play did use the captions and the captions got unintended laughs.
#13re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/25/05 at 6:10pmDoes the current Lange production use captions?
"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater
"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
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Posted: 2/25/05 at 6:13pmOK, OK, maybe I overreacted...a little. But your professor's type of attitude just gets right under my skin. I imagine now, there will be impressionable drama students running around dismissing Glass Menagerie as gooey sentimentality because of her views.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#15re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/25/05 at 8:22pmIt's okay for a prof to express his or her opinion as long as they make it clear it's an opinion, and hopefully let the students discuss things and form their own impressions first. My musical theater professor had some definite ideas about Andrew Lloyd Webber, but he made us listen to Evita first. :)
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Posted: 2/26/05 at 12:34amMagruder brings up an interesting point: what's wrong with sentimentality? Especially in THE GLASS MENAGERIE, where Tom explicitly states that the play, being memory, is sentimental. Why is it that when a play appeals to the emotions it's considered less worthy of praise?
MargoChanning
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/5/04
#17re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/26/05 at 12:36amCheap, manipulative sentiment is bad, but honest, heartfelt sentimentality, as you find in The Glass Menagerie, is commendable, IMO.
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Posted: 2/26/05 at 9:59am
Hello Blue Wizard:
I think I might be able to illuminate Williams captions.
Back in the 1940s there was a European director named Erwin Piscator who had fled Germany and was teaching in New York. Along with Bertolt Brect, his main theme was epic theatre which, as I understood it, was the withdrawal of emotion on the stage, which would help the audience understand the play's core or lesson plan, as it were. This was done using onstage bands, captions and movie images projected on stage. I saw a few of these productions and the onstage captions were obtrusive and annoying. I'm sure Williams knew of this and wrote the captions into the script. But take it from an old lady who saw the original production, it did not need captions: it had Taylor, Dowling, Hayden and Ross.
Miriam
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Posted: 2/26/05 at 10:01am
Miriam - that's something I had never heard.
So tell us, was Ms. Taylor's performance everything that it's been made out to be?
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Posted: 2/26/05 at 10:05am
It went beyond performance to embrace life. I hate to sound pretentious, but yes, it really was that good. Unfortunately, Taylor did not commit the performance to radio or record, and so we have nothing with which to document her performance. What a pity!
Miriam
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Posted: 2/26/05 at 2:45pm
Miriam, thank you for your post. It certainly helped me better understand the use of captions. Does this mean Williams' original intent was to not have the audience emotionally engaged in THE GLASS MENAGERIE?
And it's thrilling to hear you saw the original production. Wow, that must have been a wonder!
#22re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/26/05 at 3:45pmThe current production uses one projection. That of Daddy Wingfield during Tom's opening monologue....
#23re: The Glass Menagerie -- moving masterpiece or sentimental sludge?
Posted: 2/27/05 at 9:57am
Blue Wizard:
It's really hard to say what Williams 'intent was in using the captions. Since he had studied with Piscator, perhaps her thought that the captions could either illuminate the play ort help distance people from the action. Who knows? All I can tell you is that the original production did not use them. And it was perfect just the way it was!
Take care
Miriam
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