The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened

[Borstalboy]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#1

Posted: 8/13/14 at 10:41pm

Steinman + DePalma...oh, would that it were to be

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[Mr. Nowack]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#2

Posted: 8/13/14 at 11:31pm

Wasn't the film enough???

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The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#2

Posted: 8/14/14 at 3:36am

There was a demo tape. Nothing particularly unfamiliar to Steinman fans on it (full info at http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/musicals/phantomoftheparadise.html), but it's catalogued at the NYPL. Frankly, it does not fill me with hope that Steinman and De Palma were going to be a revolutionary team of any kind. (Also, jeez, did he try to fit "Total Eclipse..." into every show he did post-Eighties?)

See catalogue info here.

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Updated On: 8/14/14 at 03:36 AM

[newintown]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#3

Posted: 8/14/14 at 10:16am

The movie was so amazingly successful, I'm surprised no one has done the show yet.

[g.d.e.l.g.i.]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#4

Posted: 8/14/14 at 10:20am

Steinman fan though I am, I think it would be a big mistake to dispense with the cheesy goodness that is the Rocky Horror-esque Paul Williams score. Proceeding without it would be rather foolhardy, in my opinion.

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[LALALand]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#5

Posted: 8/14/14 at 10:58am

LOVE this movie. I am surprised this hasn't been done yet. Though I agree that it wouldn't be successful without the Paul Williams score. I like Steinman a lot, but glad this didn't work out.

[g.d.e.l.g.i.]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#6

Posted: 8/14/14 at 11:09am

Although with Jim's rampant recycling, you can at least venture a guess what songs would have gone where ("Who Needs the Young?" as a number for Swan, "Tonight Is What It Means..." is so campy and glam out of context it could replace the Beef construction song easily, "Total Eclipse..." [sigh] as the Phantom and Phoenix's theme).

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[EricMontreal22]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#7

Posted: 8/14/14 at 2:40pm

Why is Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste there?

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The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#8

Posted: 8/14/14 at 3:08pm

Jim wrote a song with the same title (and some other lyrics that later popped up in Whistle) well before he re-used any of that in the Webber musical.

The full Rory Dodd demo (not chopped up, and sadly in crappy quality) can be found here.

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The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#9

Posted: 8/14/14 at 3:10pm

The song was intended for the Everly Brothers' 1989 album Some Hearts, but didn't make the final cut. Their version of the song, however, did see recent release on a greatest hits collection. It was also produced by Jim.

You can find that here.

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The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#10

Posted: 8/14/14 at 3:11pm

Both the Everly Brothers compilation and the NYPL listing mislabel it as the ALW version. It's not.

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[tourboi]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#11

Posted: 8/14/14 at 3:46pm

Paul Williams mentioned in an interview a few years back that he was exploring a stage version.... if only.

[darquegk]

The PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE musical that never happened#12

Posted: 8/16/14 at 10:55am

A couple new songs definitely wouldn't hurt, but I think they should go the Xanadu route and flesh out the score with other songs from Paul Williams's back catalogue. This would work well for two reasons:

1. Part of the essential charm of the film is the (unintentionally?) campy mix of horror and superhero iconography with quintessential Seventies soft rock and bubblegum pop, of which Williams is perhaps the definitive master.

2. All the characters in the story are pop composers, would-be folkies or soft rock singer-songwriters already.

I can see Act 2 opening with "Touch" from the recent Paul Williams collaboration with Daft Punk. The lyrics are rumored to be explicitly inspired by Winslow, as Daft Punk have cited "Phantom of the Paradise" as one of the main creative forces behind their "Random Access Memories" album.