The question of Madame Giry's age versus Rhoul's in auction

I thought she played Meg in those scenes, also.

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Interesting... So the auctioneer called her Madame Giry, that may mean Meg ended up a lonely spinster? And hadn't Raoul aged a little too much?

I assumed it was Meg. If it was Mme. Giry, she'd be older than Rose in TITANIC.

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I thought about that possibility, but it is so clearly Miranda Richardson, that, from a filmmaking standpoint, it doesn't seem to make much sense.

The script also makes a point of having the auctioneer address her as Madame Giry in the opening sequence. While unmarried older women might be addressed as "Madame," this might be asking too much of the audience to understand, without thinking about it in great detail later, that this is Meg.

Also, Meg deliberately leaves the monkey music box and takes the mask from the Phantom's lair. It is Madame Giry who would understand the music box, having seen the Phantom with the one he made as a boy when she rescued him. That would give meaning to Madame Giry bidding for it.

Therefore, I would disagree that it is Meg.

Whew! That was way too much thought for a film I didn't really enjoy!

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DBilly, you're probably right. They should've done more to emphasize Mme. Giry's age. She still looked relatively youthful compared to Raoul. If he's supposed to be, say, 80, that would make her at least 90. Old girl's been using her Oil of Olay!

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it's easy to tell.....


an old woman version of Jennifer Ellison as Meg would be hunched over like Qusimodo dragging a set of extrely saggy breats along the ground.

well, the phantom WAS the devil's child, and as we ALL know, a devil's child doesn't AGE at the same rate as normal people. so, OF COURSE madame giry looks OLDER than the phantom!

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yeah, it's definitely meg. because in the last scene she sees the little monkey music box...and then in hte beginning @ the auction scene raoul thinks/says "just as she described it" so i figurd it was meg....does that make sense or did i think too much about that??

maggie

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POSSIBLE SPOILER!!!


And if the Phantom and Madame Giry are meant to be around the same age, with the Phantom still alive at the end, why couldn't Madame Giry still be around?

Hmmmm, I thoughtly thought it was Meg. Now I'm not to sure. Damn, I even forced my mom to believe that it was Meg.

i stand corrected. but the biggest age discrepency in the movie is not between raoul and m giry ... it's between the phantom and m giry, since they were portrayed as approximately the same age in the "flashback" sequence. how did m giry get to be so much older than the phantom appears to be? ...

"the phantom WAS the devil's child, and as we ALL know, a devil's child doesn't AGE at the same rate as normal people. so, OF COURSE madame giry looks OLDER than the phantom!"

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that's only a 3 year difference between the phantom and m giry (damn, i'm smart) ... he sure did age better than she did! guess all the stress of trying to teach those squealing girls to dance really aged her, while the phantom lived a care-free life down in his underground palace.

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