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I don't think any of the producers actually think they'll get back what they invest, you rarely do with a risky product, but I am so happy it is transferring. Broadway needs new, original musicals. I don't want to walk down Broadway with marquees displayingsuch insults as "Skater Boy: the Musical" featuring Avril Lavinge hits. Caroline is original, out of the ordinary and unique. We all said that a Urinetown transfer was dumb. Granted, Caroline doesn't have the wide appeal of Urinetown, but give it a chance. I think it is wonderful it is transferring. Is it perfect? No. Is it the next The Producers? No. Does it deserve a Broadway transfer? Yes. Yes, indeed.
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It's always encouraging to know that those off-Broadway shows that are purportedly about serious issues in contemporary life succumb to the most obvious: greed; demonstrated by the producers' and creators' desire to transfer to Broadway. Broadway where there's a light for every serious but tuneless musical that opened and closed in a season.

I don't hear many folks talking positively about CAROLINE except a few on this board and the obvious fluff pieces in the NYTimes. My sense is there exists simply a politeness about the efforts but no real momentum behind CAROLINE.

Broadway Bulldog

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Of course, we know you haven't seen it but we know you think it "sounds" pretentious.

And of course we know you probably didn't read the article that talked about the investors who want to bring it to Broadway for artistic reasons, not because they think there's much hope for even recouping their investments but because they believe in the material. How does that fit into your worldview? Of course, in your self-selected circle you don't "hear" people saying positive things. But the show did make many top ten lists...
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I'm not attacking you personally, although switching to the victim mode is a tried and true way to respond to a post while deflecting the very real questions posed in the thread you feel so wounded by, you little delicate flower.

Opinions are nice. Informed ones are worth listening to. Those with unstated biases and no exposure to the material being belittled aren't worth the diodes they're posted on. If you ever actually SEE the show you decided "sounds" pretentious, perhaps we can have a conversation at the grown ups table. Meanwhile, have fun with the kiddies. You're just the flip side of the "Awesome Gang."
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LOL.

You're always pressing those whom you believe to be evading the question. Yet you yourself didn't answer the question I posed to you which I belive was written in clear English. Your response was another attack.

Thank you for proving my point about your MO.

Cheers!

p.s. reread my opinions above about reactions to CAROLINE. I don't believe I once called CAROLINE "pretentious" that is your interpretation. Yet again you're spinning comments to suit your need to attack.

End of discussion from my end. Stay warm. You're too funny.
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My first two paragraphs were a response to your question. Not a good first time reader, are you? And speaking of MOs, "I'm not talking about this anymore" is my fave of your teenage girl-like techniques Bulldog. Evade responses and shut down discussions! Ask any of the other kids, they all know you do it, it's like, totally true!
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"Tuneless does not equal Artistic"

That may be true of My Life With Albertine. I cannot find anything interesting in the story or the score. LaChiusa is often not hummable, but I have a huge respect for the compexity of his scores. The Producers has many tunes in its score, but I found it to be one of the weakest score of the season.

But then, what is "artistic" and why? It's so subjective, it's impossible to define. Can Shaiman, Sondheim, LaChiusa, Rodgers, and Lloyd Webber all be considered artistic? I think so.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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