VIRGINIA WOLFF -- George and Martha
VIRGINIA WOLFF -- George and Martha
Joined: 12/31/69
#0VIRGINIA WOLFF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/19/05 at 11:15pm
Do you belive that George and Martha love each other?
Why yes?
Why no?
#1re: VIRGINIA WOLFF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/19/05 at 11:16pm
Yes.
Otherwise one of them would have killed the other by now.
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Updated On: 5/19/05 at 11:16 PM
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#2re: VIRGINIA WOLFF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/19/05 at 11:22pmIf George didn't love Martha why would get so upset when he knows that Martha and Nick are making love......
#3re: VIRGINIA WOLFF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/19/05 at 11:30pmYou always hurt the one you love.
Faced with these Loreleis, what man can moralize!
#4re: VIRGINIA WOLFF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/19/05 at 11:38pmI think they are the ultimate example of a love-hate relationship- a term that's overused but entirely appropriate here. Or, to quote "Rent," "can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em." They both are such passionate and strong people (those don't feel like quite the right words- but I think you can tell what I mean) that they need someone of their own stature to live with.
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#5re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/20/05 at 12:26am
Yes, I think they do. They don't have a healthy relationship by any means, but by the end Martha has realized that George is the only man who was ever good to her, and George "exorcises" their son as much to help Martha as to hurt her.
Updated On: 5/20/05 at 12:26 AM
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#6re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/20/05 at 6:57amInteresting perspectives on the relationship between these two complicated characters.
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#7re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/20/05 at 7:33amThey don't just love each other. They have the most self destructively co-dependent relationship that has possibly ever been depicted. At the end of the play, I was convinced that one could not live without the other.
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#8re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/20/05 at 8:46amGeorge and Martha certainly love each other. The despicable bantering between the two of them is foreplay for their lovemaking. It is diseased and it is wretched and it is warped...but it is a form of love. Just not a love that normal, mentally healthy person would lay claim to.
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#9re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/20/05 at 9:24ammikewood, I think the George-Martha relationship is a lot more "normal" than you suppose in long married couples.
Faced with these Loreleis, what man can moralize!
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#10re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/20/05 at 9:29ammallardo-not to that degree, I don't think, and certainly not so literate!
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#11re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/20/05 at 1:06pmI always thought it wasn't love, just desperation. George and Martha know they will never have anyone, or anything else in their life. They are clinging to the one constant in their lives...each other. It's all they know and all they ever expect to have.
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#12re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/20/05 at 10:59pmWouuld you deliberately hurt your partner if you love him/her?
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#13re: VIRGINIA WOOLF -- George and Martha
Posted: 5/21/05 at 1:02am
I think they NEED each other, but I'm not sure that constitutes LOVE.
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