Was the 2017-2018 season better than the 2009-2010 season? — Page 2

This thread is funny!

American Idiot was a hit with the kids but still had huge issues with the book.

It was a huge hit with me, my husband, our friends and my 72 year-old mother at the time. None of us had any issues with its unconventional book.

Ok, that is true critics wise. They made it clear this year that they only loved 1 new show. That's still 1 more than they loved in 2010.

Fela received across-the-board raves with critics, much like The Band's Visit, Passing Strange and Jersey Boys. Sometimes the voters align with critics and sometimes they don't.

Whereas 2010 was still a toss up come tony time since all shows were equally bland.

I can't imagine describing either Fela or American Idiot as "bland". Not to everyone's tastes, that makes sense. But "bland"? Computer says "no".

Was anyone defending Million Dollar Quartet, Fela, Memphis, or Addams Family to their grave on these boards like they did for Spongebob?

As with every single season, the answer is always "yes". There are always the disgruntled fans defending a losing show to their graves. In 2010, there were loads of defenders of both Fela and The Addams Family. The latter consisted of fans of the show, fans of the Lane, fans of Neuwirth, fans of Hoffman, fans of Rodriguez, fans of Lippa, and every possible combination of the aforementioned fans.

But audiences in total seemed to be more enthusiastic for Mean Girls, Spongebob, and Bands Visit than any new musical in 2010.

Why does it seem that audiences are more enthusiastic about Band's Visit than Memphis? I mean, they might be, but it's not as if TBV has caught America by storm and word-of-mouth turned it into a Broadway juggernaut or anything. Audiences in total were more enthusiastic about Mamma Mia than any musical this season or 2009-2010, but it's not really indicative of the season as a whole. It's really just about that show. Every season is different. That's just how it is.

So it looks like this:

2018 had by far the best #1 musical; 2010 and 2018's 2-4 shows were about even; and 2010 had the best #5 and #6 musicals.

Is that what it looks like? It doesn't look like something else? Maybe something that doesn't include Come From Away? Maybe it looks like this:



Strangely, I never really liked Mean Girls because when the moviecame out, it just seemed like a watered down Heathers to me.

That is indeed strange.

Heathers was crap, Mean Girls was a masterpiece x

Even more strange.

It's a watered down Heathers for sure, but it's also a safe, watered down version of a lot of smart teen comedies and it also contains a false and ultimately shallow lesson.

Okay, but like, fer shur-fer shur, Heathers is like, LITERALLY, a totally watered-down Carrie, werd-fer-werd. And we all know Waitress is nothing more than a watered-down Sweeney Todd, ammirite? *high-five*

The 2017-2018 season is much better than the 2009-2010 season. At least they had four musical scores to nominate.

Unless you didn't like most of the scores, of course. Or you don't judge a season by its number of original scores written for musicals because you are acutely how much fun you had seeing Rock of Ages and Xanadu as opposed to Scandalous, Brooklyn, Thou Shalt Not or The People in the Picture.


Personally, I like Clueless and Easy A better than Mean Girls OR Heathers.

BroadwayRox3588 said: "Impossible2 said: "Your post kind of reeks of 'Broadway' being for a certain kind of audience when it is not. For it to remain relevant and evolve it must have variety and be for everyone."

I apologize, but you have misunderstood the point of my post. My point was merely to point out the difference in perspectives. Someone who is going into a show to bask in the glory of their faves is not going to view the show with the same perspective as someone who is going in looking to evaluate what works and doesn't work about a show.I even made it a point to emphasizethat both perspectives are valid."

Sorry my post came across harsher than I meant it to.

I get what you're saying, but surely the same can be said for more mature audiences such as Springsteen fans going to see Springsteen or Midler fans going to see Hello Dolly. I sat watching Hello Dolly with my jaw on the floor at the total over reaction of the audience to what was going on on stage. They were so excited that Midler was in front of them, none of them seemed to care that she made no attempt what so ever to actually play the character she'd been hired to play.

When I went to Come From Away half the audience sat waving Canadian flags and were obviously visiting just to see the show. They weren't going berserk at the end because the show was that amazing, they were losing their **** because the show was Canadian. They were all in their 40's and 50's.

I didn't find the audience at Mean Girls like that at all and I went to a Wednesday matinee in the middle of school holidays. If you are fan of something you are going to watch it with rose coloured glasses whatever your age.

Average people in general do not judge stuff in the same way as critics, they view it simply as entertainment and if the show resonates with them in any way, they enjoy it however faulted it is.

Mister Matt said: "Heathers and Clueless however are not even in the same class as either of them.

Heathers is really in a different class than all of them. It's dark absurdity and morbidly rebellious moralityseparatedit from the others. Mean Girls was a contemporary variation on a common theme. Heathers actually wasn't."

True. It is a completely different film.