What if Sondheim had written WICKED?
Belasco07
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 8:26pmn/m Updated On: 4/30/04 at 08:26 PM
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 8:35pmIt would have closed by now.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 8:44pm
Just like the last Sondheim show involving witches- what a flop!
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 8:46pm
if sondeheim wrote wicked donna murphy woulda been elphaba from 18-40 and marin mazzie woulda been glinda, or something to that effect. strong, dramatatic amazing vocalist who can act the crap outta anything. it woulda been soooo much different.
i love the wicked now. i love idina. but i honestly hafta say it woulda been a better musical if sondheim wrote it.
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 10:36pm
"Content dictates form." -Stephen Sondheim
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 10:37pm
I think it would be a wonderful musical if Sondheim wrote it, but it's still an incredible musical. The music is still an amazing score; one I never get tired of, and I like some of the pop-sounding material in the show. It's a very contemporary, modern musical, which may be why so many young people love it. I think there needs to be more shows like this around. The contemporary music mixed with a great story and FANTASTIC special effects.
Sondheim would written amazing score for it, though, I do have to say.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 11:12pm
I wish I could say I liked this score, I really do. I don't hate Schwartz- like I said before, his music is occassionally okay. I really really wanted to like the score to Wicked, but it just wasn't happening. I was so disappointed. No accounting for taste, huh?
But I wish Sondheim would have a hit as big as Wicked. I know I've said over and over that money isn't what makes a musical good, but what all the Sondheim lovers secretly want is for everyone else to like him too. Oh, well. Assassins looks to be doing nicely now. :)
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 11:15pm
There would have been some obvious sexual subliminal messaging.
lol, who knows.
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Posted: 4/30/04 at 11:18pmwell they sure are present in the book, stateofjade
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 12:55amSondheim has so many more shows than Schwartz, before there was any talk of Wicked were there as many Schwartz fans? I know I was, because Pippin, Godspell, Children of Eden enthralled me, and they all do appeal to younger generations. Now I'm 16 and I just found out about this whole musical theater thing about a year ago. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, sometimes I think Sondheim is to wordy for his own good. Schwartz writes songs where you have to sing within a range of 12 octaves. It still doesn't make one better than the other.
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 12:08pmComparing Stephen Sondheim to Stephen Schwartz is like comparing (respectively) Fine Wine and Beer. Schwartz writes for money not for art. Sondheim writes for something higher. I know I'll be jumped in the streets for saying that. You can deny it as much as you want. But in the words of Arthur Miller "Attention must be paid"
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 12:26pmHow is it that you know Schwartz does not write for the art? Is that a keen assumption becasue you have been listening to Sondheim so long you refuse to belive that there are other things just as good.
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 12:27pm
Personly I like both. Having done Godspell heaven only knows how many times!I truley enjoy sining a Schwartz's songs, they just stick w/ you.
Sondheim is just a different writer (not many earworms here), but after seeing ASSASSINS "Why Did You Do It Johnny" is just stuck in my head(Talk about an earworm!)
Wicked would still be a good show only ALOT darker, closer to the book
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 2:02pmI'm afraid, BB that you are incorrect. While I listen to Sondheim, I also listen and enjoy Schwartz. However I can sense that they are writing for two different reasons. To try to portray me as close minded in favor of one composer is an inaccurate picture to draw.
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 2:36pm
Yeah but to dismiss Schwartz's artistic motivations is equally inaccurate. Stephen Schwaretz, just like Sondheim, is a guy trying to create good theater. Not everyone writing more 'popular' music is a sell-out whore, any more than Stephen Sondheim is.
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 4:29pmWell I guess we'll have to wait for Frogs.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 4:45pmWell...I haven't been subtle about which of two I like better, but I don't know if I can sense Scwartz's motivations by listening to his music. I do think he has some kind of artistic sensibility at the very least.
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Posted: 5/1/04 at 4:52pmWhat are Sondheim's "motivations" within his music.
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