Will Julie White Whiffle Away With the Tony? YES, BEBE!!!- Page 2

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 4:58pm

I think it would be great to award White, who has been toiling away doing fantastic work in regional theater. She's worked hard for many years without the opportunity for high recognition, and without the name value that gets plays produced. And really, how wide is Lansbury's mantel?

[D2]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 4:59pm

Angela Lansbury is brilliant, and I'm looking forward to seeing her on Broadway again. But she was awarded her last Tony Award in 1979 - I'd be willing to bet that the same Tony voters who made her their darling then aren't voting now. To unilaterally say she's going to win again this year, before her performance has even been seen, is just as absurd as all of the other predictions running rampant in all the other threads. Including this one, including some of mine.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:01pm

Ah, but my thread is a question, not a prediction.

[D2]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:06pm

I'm not referring to you, Nom.

[broadwaybaby086]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:08pm

I would love to see White win- as my userpic may suggest. It was a brilliant performance that prompted this musical girl to see more plays.

[jv92]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:08pm

Perhaps Lansbury could be not so good. But that's highly unlikely. Who knows what'll happen that fateful night?
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[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:09pm

I mean just because I had the "Is JLY the Tony Frontrunner?" thread last year, you shouldn't think of my threads as prophetic.

Coincidence.

[D2]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:10pm

And THAT'S my point. Who knows what will happen that night? The suspense is terrible, I hope it will last. Or something like that.

Updated On: 4/10/07 at 05:10 PM

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:20pm

"The suspense is terrible, I hope it will last."

Good one, D2.

And I hope Julie gets to wear either her opening "awards" outfit or that gorgeous slinky white yoga outfit to the Tonys.

[D2]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:22pm

I wish I could take credit for that, Nom, but it's Oscar Wilde.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:24pm

Ah, yes.

"Either this wallpaper goes, or I do."

[LuPonatic]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:31pm

What about Julie White for Drama Desk?

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:40pm

White lost the Drama Desk for Best Actress in a Play last year to Lois Smith in THE TRIP TO BOUNTIFUL.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:41pm

So perhaps White is ripe for the Drama Desk this year?

[D2]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:45pm

Uhm, no.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:47pm

Are you saying that White is ineligible this year, D2?

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:47pm

And before you ask, White also lost the Outer Critics Circle Award to Smith.

She did get an Obie however (along with Smith and others).

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:49pm

For which role?
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[D2]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:51pm

Her role in THE LITTLE DOG LAUGHED. It premiered last spring at 2nd Stage. The Broadway production was a transfer. But you knew that.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:53pm

?????


White was nominated for her performance in LITTLE DOG last year and lost the Drama Desk and Outer Circle Awards to Smith (but did make the Obie and Drama League lists). Remember she played the role first off-Broadway at Second Stage. Thus, she's ineligible for every award (except the Tony) this year.

Updated On: 4/10/07 at 05:53 PM

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:55pm

You have just made me remember it. I didn't see it Off Broadway.

Don't you think a Broadway production is a bit more fully realized in its productions values and more visible such that there would still be a chance for a Drama Desk?

Or in the case of a transfer where the original show's performance wasn't noted, are they always omitted subsequently at the Drama Desk?

Drama Desk, as I recall, covers all theatre, not just on or Off Broadway, correct me if I am mistaken.

[D2]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 5:56pm

Margo, you wanna take this one? I'm done.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 6:00pm

I'm thinking that since the Off Broadway show was last year in the spring, it's a different set of Drama Desk Awards for this year.

It's my understanding that when a show changes venues it is considered a new production, even if the same cast, director, etc.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 6:01pm

Once you've been nominated once for a given role in a given production, that's it. End of story. White is ineligible for every award now except for the Tony.

And White performance was "noted" -- she was one of the nominees. She just lost. It's not even as if there are separate categories for off- and on-Broadway performances -- there's just one "Best Actress" category that includes everyone on-, off-, and off-off. So, it would hardly make any sense whatsoever to include her in the same category for the same performance in the same production, two years in a row. She had her chance. She just didn't win.

And as for production values, the Broadway production was an exact replica physically of the Second Stage production. The Broadway one was simply a little bigger (and it had the same design team).

Updated On: 4/10/07 at 06:01 PM

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 4/10/07 at 6:03pm

A change of venue does not make a new production, then?