"phantom of the opera" song in movie
doremi2
Swing Joined: 6/9/05
#0"phantom of the opera" song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 3:37pmDid anyone realize that the end of this song was transposed a step lower for Emmy Rossum at the end of the song? (when the Phantom says "sing my angel of music!" and Christine just sings without words) I noticed it the first time I saw the movie, but I was just reminded once again. Does anyone know why -- was it because they wanted it that way or Emmy couldn't sing the high C and E? Sorry if this has already been posted, I just think it's interesting.
LilMiZBroADwaY23
Broadway Star Joined: 8/11/04
#1re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 4:23pm
They've transposed it before as I have heard on a German recordings. I don't really thing it's that rare because obviously a High E is very, very, difficult to sing. I highly doubt Emmy could it hit it well. She probably could be probably not that well. For instance I can hit it, but does it sound pretty? Nope, and I've been privately and classically trained for eight years.
Like I said, it's a very difficult note and if the right person doesn't sing it, it sounds just like a screech unlike Sarah Brightman's awesome high E.
#2re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 4:33pmThey left out a verse in the middle ("In all your fantasies, you always, that man and mystery were both in you) and one of the Ah modulations at the end, so that's two steps lower without transposing the entire song.
#3re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 6:21pmThe song wasn't transposed a whole step lower, just a half-step. So Rossum's version ends with a high E flat/D sharp, not with an E natural like Brightman's.
PleaseChangeMe
Featured Actor Joined: 8/24/04
#4re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 6:29pmBrightman sounds like she's screaming more than singing the note on the OBC anyway.
EganFan2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/8/04
#5re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 6:30pmAnd even then it sounds like it's digitally enhanced.
sassypanz
Broadway Star Joined: 1/20/05
#6re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 7:55pmNeither Rossum or Brightman can sing at all!!
#7re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 7:56pmOr Hanson..or Joseph. Although the former has been argued..
Joshua488
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/29/04
#9re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 10:43pmguys, it's called a semitone, not a half step.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#10re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/11/05 at 10:45pmNot surprised... Emmy was awful in the movie and she didn't deserve the role. There are much more talented people that are capable of singing POTO better than her and actually in the right key.
Urban
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/27/05
#11re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 4:40amEmmy may not be the best singer, but compared to the horror that was Gerald Butler, Emmy was practically Streisand.
#12re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 7:18amThe only thing I liked about the movie was the performance of Miranda Richardson as Giry - she sang all her own stuff and was just about the only person in the movie to use a French accent, which makes her the most professional of the cast members. Minnie Driver has some funny moments, but overall, this movie was a huge bomb for me. Not only is it Andrew Lloyd Webber (can you say "yuck"?) but most of the cast couldn't even sing!
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#13re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 9:10am
Why should they have French accents? They are French people speaking French.
When you do "A Little Night Music", do you use a Swedish accent? When you do "Romeo and Juliet", do you use an Italian accent?
For that matter, why the hell do the Thernardiers have Cockney accents on the OCR of Les miz?
Beergoggles
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/30/05
#14re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 9:15amgood point... i've never understood the cockney accent thing? Especially when Eponine has a really over the top one... mentioning no names but when we listened to it we just cried with laughter the girl was so bad.
EganFan2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/8/04
#15re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 10:01am
>>>>Emmy may not be the best singer, but compared to the horror that was Gerald Butler, Emmy was practically Streisand.
See, I don't get that. To me, both Emmy and GeraRd seemed to be on the same level singing wise. Though I would rather listen to him over her any day. She was not better than he was, IMO, and yet people trash him within an inch of his life. If you say he can't reach notes, listen to Emmy.
#16re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 10:28amMy point is that if someone in a show has an accent - EVERYONE in the show should, if the characters are mainly all european or what-have-you. What would be wrong with everyone in Night Music having a Swedish accent? Not a thing.
#17re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 10:58am
>>>>guys, it's called a semitone, not a half step.
Semitone, half-step, same difference: both mean the smallest interval in the Western tonal system.
#18re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 11:02am
"Emmy may not be the best singer, but compared to the horror that was Gerald Butler, Emmy was practically Streisand."
But compared to Emmy and Gerard, Minnie was Streisand.
doremi2
Swing Joined: 6/9/05
#19re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 1:10pm
Yeah, but people seem to have a blindspot in really listening to Emmy...or thaht's how it seems to me. haha. I have two friends who are obsessed with her and refuse to listen to other recordings of POTO...they're missing out. But I've heard "But she was only 16 when she filmed the movie, she has a good voice for being so young," but in that case, they should have gotten someone older with a good voice.
I know it's been discussed before, it's just been driving me crazy.
(and sorry...i meant half-step in the original post, but typed just one step for some reason)
#20re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 5:18pmHow come "And in this labyrinth where night is..." isn't in the title song in the movie?
EganFan2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/8/04
#21re: 'phantom of the opera' song in movie
Posted: 7/12/05 at 5:30pmBecause then Emmy would have had to sing the cadenza at the end in the original key.
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