wicked book vs. wicked play- Page 2

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 8:47pm

Yeah, I understand, Becky. They just changed too much of the story for my taste.

[OhSoWicked]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 8:57pm

I don't think anyone mentioned this one...Galinda doesn't fall for Fiyero, that whole love triangle doesn't exist.

[Unmasked05]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:16pm

CONFUSED HERE

In the book "WICKED
Boq did become the Tin Man he would have to because even in the "Wizard Of OZ" books he told how he became like that and his name was Boq.
Also in the book I wondered if the Wizard knew that was his daughter but he was to himself in denial and had her killed for that reason it the first place.
Was Madam Morrible , Mother Yackle the whole time?
If so then she knew that Elphaba was the Wizards daughter ?

[musicalmjk]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:26pm

adding another question
who killed Dr. Dillamond? was it grommetick or morrible.

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:31pm

Updated On: 9/20/04 at 09:31 PM

[musicalmjk]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:39pm

turtle heart wasnt elphaba's father, he was Nessa's and shell's(?) father. also isnt the green bottle used so that Nessa doesnt become green?

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:42pm

Lol! I realized that afte ri hit enter, OOPS! ALSO! Something I found interesting... You know when Turtleheart is making the glass? Isn't the disc he makes and hangs in front of Elphie (When she was a baby, just before he and Melena hit the sheets...) green?

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:43pm

One more thing... Shell was named after Turtleheart because Turtleheart died, I don't think SHell was his son too.

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:47pm

No, I think she was. I'm quoting here:

"...so she brought the green glass bottle that said MIRACLE ELI- on the paper glued to the front. It may merely be apocryphal that when the Wizard saw the glass bottle he gasped, and clutched his heart. The story is told in so many ways, depending on who is doing the telling, and what needs to be heard at the time. It is a matter of history, however, that shortly thereafter, the Wizard absconded from the Palace."

And remember, Turtle Heart didn't enter the picture until after Elphaba was born. Shell was his son.

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:51pm

Are we SURE he was Turtle Heart's son? And, I know he didn't enter the picture until after Elphie! He came when Melena was giving Elphie breakfest! And the minnow... Hehe!

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:54pm

Well, I guess there's not really any proof, but it's strongly implied. Nessarose is definitely his daughter, though. Right?

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 9:59pm

I'd say that Nessa was definately his, but I don't feel like it was even suggested that Shell was his as well.

[wickedfan]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:00pm

Right.

[musicalmjk]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:02pm

yes, nessa is turtle heart's daughter. does anyone know where the green bottle first appears in the book, doesnt Nanny go get it? i wish this book had a search function in it.

[Glebb]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:02pm

Wasn't it implied that Turtleheart and Frex were in love as well?

Updated On: 9/20/04 at 10:02 PM

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:04pm

When Nanny came to stay while Melena was carrying Nessa I do believe she went and got the stuff in the green bottle. She also got pills though... From Yackle.

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:10pm

"adding another question
who killed Dr. Dillamond? was it grommetick or morrible."

I always assumed it was Grommetik, but I honestly don't know.

[Glebb]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:11pm

and wasn't Horrible Morrible Grommetik's master?

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:13pm

Do you recall just before Ama Clutch died, she told Glinda, Elphie and Nessa she saw Grommetik in Dr. Dillamond's lab? I'll try and find the oages.

Updated On: 9/20/04 at 10:13 PM

[musicalmjk]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:28pm

p 154 i think

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/20/04 at 10:32pm

Oy!I just came back to let you guys know it is page 154, and someone already beat me to it! But, yes! It is page 154!

[redhotinnyc2]

Posted: 9/21/04 at 9:15am

The book is infinitely better than the musical. They butchered it and dumbed it down for the audiences and made it trite. The book is darker and much richer, with much better fleshed-out characters and situations.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 9/21/04 at 9:22am

Dumbed it down?! In this day and age?! Impossible!!!

[redhotinnyc2]

Posted: 9/21/04 at 9:25am

I KNOW!

[Up In Won]

Posted: 9/21/04 at 12:35pm

Just to prolong the life of the topic that I'm sure many people want to die... I actually like how they incorporate the Lion, Tin Man and Scare Crow into te show. I thought that was clever.

Updated On: 9/21/04 at 12:35 PM