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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/22/25 Jun 25 2025, 12:28:10 PM
Fosse76 said: "TasteOfHoney said: "Matt Rogers said: "TasteOfHoney said: "Matt Rogers said: "TasteOfHoney said: "ACL2006 said: "binau said: "There could be an unlikely path to success for Boop where less competition and summer tourists help turn the show around.....I would say never but after Maybe Happy Ending I've learned never to say never."
Foreigners aren't coming over this summer. Europeans and Canadians aren't traveling to the US this summer. Maybe Asians are, haven't seen numbers on them, but it's a drastic plunge that likely doesn't aide in any struggling shows."
You would be wrong - as someone who works at a long running Broadway show - 60% of the crowd are tourists from Europe & Canada , most people do not care the least about Trump andpolitics - I’m in the real world - it’s all tourists - same as always and it’s almost end of June - still waiting for what The View told me to come true, again normal people do not care about politics , they are here . I speak to them , nobody is talking about the things MSMBC told you they care about"
What an obnoxious post filled with lies. I could post a lot of links but I’m not doing your homework for you. I suggest you google “foreign tourists avoid NYC” and you will see all the many news stories about this."
Ok you can keep the articles - I’m working in the industry 6 days a week - I speak to them- nobody cares about what Trump said about Canada or France or whatever - when my show collapses because Trump scaredaway tourists - I’ll be glad to say I was wrong - but until then - you can live in your bubble of conservatives, MAGA, liberals, progressives- when in the real world - most people do not care - unless there is an economic collapse - they will be here and seeing shows , the average person does not breathe WaPo articles , Fox News , NPR etc - still waiting to meet a tourist who cares about Trump lol - try meeting actual humans instead of soaking in doom and gloom media - again I work at. a tourist heavy show - 60% of the audience are foreign- you don’t want to accept it, because some article from The Guardian or The Times told you it’sdoomsday- everyone is boycotting the dumb Orange man and the states , it’s not happening yet- would you be happier if it was ? You want us out of work to satisfy your political obsession ?"
Hun, you can keep saying the same thing over and over but repetition does not make it true. NYC tourism from international locations is wayyyy down. I guess I do have to do your homework for you after all. It’s okay to be wrong. Just admit it (or don’t) and move on. The doubling down of inaccurate info is not helpful.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/07/travel/new-york-city-tourism-down-trump
https://www.6sqft.com/nyc-officials-predict-17-percent-drop-in-international-tourists-due-to-trump-policies/
https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/tourists-are-staying-away-from-the-us-what-does-that-mean-for-nyc
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-08/nyc-warns-of-17-drop-in-foreign-tourists-due-to-trump-policies
https://nypost.com/2025/04/18/business/nyc-tourism-poised-to-tank-as-tariffs-stock-market-rattle-travelers/
https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/nyc-will-see-a-17-percent-drop-in-international-tourists-due-to-potus-policies-051225
Again articles making predictions which are not panning out yet- panic media not seeped in reality - get back when you work 19 years solid in a Broadway house - you can cling to the articles - strange Broadway box office is actually up - so repeat after me - doomsday articles are not panning out - notice the key word in every article - predict- predict, do you understand? I predicted the Knicks would win the championship, please don’t come out me with “ predictions” my reading level is quite high - predictions vs reality - the predictions are not happening yet - I’ll let you know when everyone boycotts America over the dumb president - when the actual numbers are released we shall see if the predictions happened- where I work it’s robust business of foreign tourists""
Does it hurt to be so ignorant?"
No it’s awesome to be right because tourism is alive and well, the show I work at is thriving and I still have a job , I know you want tourism to collapse so you can scream about Trump but to me it’s about my survival and thankfully the Canadians are still coming, the Europeans are still coming , the Japanese are still coming etc
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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/22/25 Jun 25 2025, 12:23:36 PM
Lot666 said: "JSquared2 said: "(Taste of) Honey -- You really don't understand how data and sampling works, do you?"
Taste of Honey really doesn't understand how hyphens/dasheswork, either."
Every article the other poster suggested I read all share one thing - predictions not the actual data- please feel free to send me any actual data displaying a decline in tourism , and I’ll concede. Look you are all pissed because t
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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/22/25 Jun 24 2025, 06:37:26 PM
JSquared2 said: "TasteOfHoney said: "Matt Rogers said: "TasteOfHoney said: "ACL2006 said: "binau said: "There could be an unlikely path to success for Boop where less competition and summer tourists help turn the show around.....I would say never but after Maybe Happy Ending I've learned never to say never."
Foreigners aren't coming over this summer. Europeans and Canadians aren't traveling
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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/22/25 Jun 24 2025, 06:33:22 PM
Mr. Wormwood said: "I see we need to have a lesson on anecdotes vs statistics..."
What statistics show an actual decline ? All I have seen are predictions this far
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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/22/25 Jun 24 2025, 06:25:25 PM
Matt Rogers said: "TasteOfHoney said: "Matt Rogers said: "TasteOfHoney said: "ACL2006 said: "binau said: "There could be an unlikely path to success for Boop where less competition and summer tourists help turn the show around.....I would say never but after Maybe Happy Ending I've learned never to say never."
Foreigners aren't coming over this summer. Europeans and Canadians aren't traveling to the US this summer. Maybe Asians are, haven't seen numbers on them, but it's a drastic plunge that likely doesn't aide in any struggling shows."
You would be wrong - as someone who works at a long running Broadway show - 60% of the crowd are tourists from Europe & Canada , most people do not care the least about Trump andpolitics - I’m in the real world - it’s all tourists - same as always and it’s almost end of June - still waiting for what The View told me to come true, again normal people do not care about politics , they are here . I speak to them , nobody is talking about the things MSMBC told you they care about"
What an obnoxious post filled with lies. I could post a lot of links but I’m not doing your homework for you. I suggest you google “foreign tourists avoid NYC” and you will see all the many news stories about this."
Ok you can keep the articles - I’m working in the industry 6 days a week - I speak to them- nobody cares about what Trump said about Canada or France or whatever - when my show collapses because Trump scaredaway tourists - I’ll be glad to say I was wrong - but until then - you can live in your bubble of conservatives, MAGA, liberals, progressives- when in the real world - most people do not care - unless there is an economic collapse - they will be here and seeing shows , the average person does not breathe WaPo articles , Fox News , NPR etc - still waiting to meet a tourist who cares about Trump lol - try meeting actual humans instead of soaking in doom and gloom media - again I work at. a tourist heavy show - 60% of the audience are foreign- you don’t want to accept it, because some article from The Guardian or The Times told you it’sdoomsday- everyone is boycotting the dumb Orange man and the states , it’s not happening yet- would you be happier if it was ? You want us out of work to satisfy your political obsession ?"
Hun, you can keep saying the same thing over and over but repetition does not make it true. NYC tourism from international locations is wayyyy down. I guess I do have to do your homework for you after all. It’s okay to be wrong. Just admit it (or don’t) and move on. The doubling down of inaccurate info is not helpful.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/07/travel/new-york-city-tourism-down-trump
https://www.6sqft.com/nyc-officials-predict-17-percent-drop-in-international-tourists-due-to-trump-policies/
https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/tourists-are-staying-away-from-the-us-what-does-that-mean-for-nyc
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-08/nyc-warns-of-17-drop-in-foreign-tourists-due-to-trump-policies
https://nypost.com/2025/04/18/business/nyc-tourism-poised-to-tank-as-tariffs-stock-market-rattle-travelers/
https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/nyc-will-see-a-17-percent-drop-in-international-tourists-due-to-potus-policies-051225
Again articles making predictions which are not panning out yet- panic media not seeped in reality - get back when you work 19 years solid in a Broadway house - you can cling to the articles - strange Broadway box office is actually up - so repeat after me - doomsday articles are not panning out - notice the key word in every article - predict- predict, do you understand? I predicted the Knicks would win the championship, please don’t come out me with “ predictions” my reading level is quite high - predictions vs reality - the predictions are not happening yet - I’ll let you know when everyone boycotts America over the dumb president - when the actual numbers are released we shall see if the predictions happened- where I work it’s robust business of foreign tourists
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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/22/25 Jun 24 2025, 06:08:41 PM
Matt Rogers said: "TasteOfHoney said: "ACL2006 said: "binau said: "There could be an unlikely path to success for Boop where less competition and summer tourists help turn the show around.....I would say never but after Maybe Happy Ending I've learned never to say never."
Foreigners aren't coming over this summer. Europeans and Canadians aren't traveling to the US this summer. Maybe Asians are, haven't s
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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/22/25 Jun 24 2025, 04:20:51 PM
ACL2006 said: "TasteOfHoney said: "ACL2006 said: "binau said: "There could be an unlikely path to success for Boop where less competition and summer tourists help turn the show around.....I would say never but after Maybe Happy Ending I've learned never to say never."
Foreigners aren't coming over this summer. Europeans and Canadians aren't traveling to the US this summer. Maybe Asians are, haven't seen
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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/22/25 Jun 24 2025, 04:03:10 PM
ACL2006 said: "binau said: "There could be an unlikely path to success for Boop where less competition and summer tourists help turn the show around.....I would say never but after Maybe Happy Ending I've learned never to say never."
Foreigners aren't coming over this summer. Europeans and Canadians aren't traveling to the US this summer. Maybe Asians are, haven't seen numbers on them, but it's a drastic plunge that l
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LuPone on McDonald Jun 4 2025, 10:28:05 AM
emilyfaye48 said: "TasteOfHoney said: "In other words, everything is racist all the time , this is what Kecia Lewis thinks a sound complain of a Broadway show is racism because she was taught CRT in University."
This is the silliest take from this whole thread."
It’s not silly listen to what Kecia said and you will see all the buzzwords and terminology which originated from CRT- micro aggression and white privilege- these concepts
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LuPone on McDonald Jun 3 2025, 04:14:08 PM
ErikJ972 said: "TasteOfHoney said: "binau said: "Are we ever going to hold witch hunters accountable for their actions? It used to be mildly annoying when people were unreasonably sensitive, but now it's starting to get dangerous.
Are we just going to accept that people who can't control their emotions and see reality will be able to close a show, putting dozens of people (many POC) out of work?
Are we just going to accept that witch hu
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LuPone on McDonald Jun 3 2025, 01:32:33 PM
binau said: "Are we ever going to hold witch hunters accountable for their actions? It used to be mildly annoying when people were unreasonably sensitive, but now it's starting to get dangerous.
Are we just going to accept that people who can't control their emotions and see reality will be able to close a show, putting dozens of people (many POC) out of work?
Are we just going to accept that witch hunters can band together and make false claims against
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LuPone on McDonald Jun 1 2025, 12:09:47 AM
Ensemble1698878795 said: "abcd12 said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "Now that everything is back to normal, can this thread end??"
Back to normal meaning a board of people complacent in racial micro aggressions as long as it doesn’t tarnish the legacy of their Queen? Yes, honey. Carry on."
You are really sad."
Folks against the norm in these spaces are called all kinda
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. May 31 2025, 09:22:12 PM
Up In One said: "I found this article about Hell’s Kitchen’s sound design, and it sheds light on what Patti LuPone was reacting to. She wasn’t just sensing a show that was “a little louder than usual.” Hell’s Kitchen was purposely designed to sound unlike any other Broadway musical—and it seems the creative team may not have fully considered how that might affect their neighbors.
The article explains how the sound design is breaking boundaries, both musically and sonically, to create an immersive soundscape unlike anything seen—or heard—on Broadway.
“The Broadway setup features a massive surround array including between 230 and 240 speakers, creating a surround sound experience that envelops the audience.”
To put that in perspective: most Broadway musicals use between 60 and 100 speakers total to ensure clarity and balance without overwhelming the space. Hell’s Kitchen uses more than double or triple that, with speakers placed on the sides, in the rear, and even overhead.
“The system includes 12 d&b V-Subs and 4 GSL-Subs, delivering deep, extended bass more typical of arena tours than theater.”
The goal wasn’t just to let the audience hear the music—it was to make them physically feel it. Subwoofers are placed throughout the theater, creating tactile vibrations that are part of the experience.
“The show employs studio-level plug-ins like Seventh Heaven used to emulate concert hall reverb and add immersive depth.”
They were aiming for a high-fidelity recreation of Alicia Keys’ studio sound—live. But here’s the thing: music studios are acoustically controlled fortresses—built with layered insulation, isolated walls, and precision-engineered silence.
Broadway theaters—especially landmark-preserved spaces—are the opposite: aging architecture, thin walls, and shared acoustics. Trying to recreate a studio-grade soundscape in that kind of environment is artistically thrilling… but acoustically volatile.
The article also notes that they significantly ramped up the sound between the Off-Broadway run at the Public and the Broadway production at the Shubert.
All of this suggests the cast was very aware of the sound design. Kecia being a veteran of Broadway should have known this sound system was a different beast. Unless the actor’s perspective is different than the audience experience.
This wasn’t a case of Hell’s Kitchen having the volume turned up a little too high and just needing to be lowered because of a cranky old white lady who thinks she owns Broadway.
I saw the show at The Public and the concert level volume and audiophile clarity was one of the pluses for me. The breaks to book scenes were a let down. I was hoping they’d turn it into a straight up concert for Bway. My recommendation to friends on this show was to go for the music. I need to go see it again now for the new sound design alone.
The Simmering Sounds of Alicia Keys’ “Hell’s Kitchen”"
Bottom line Lupone complained about a sound system- that is racist against speakers !
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LuPone on McDonald May 31 2025, 09:16:57 PM
gibsons2 said: "TasteOfHoney said: "OkIbram Xolani Kendi called he wants his material back - the anti racist ideology is so 2020 😋"
You don't have to be so open about your racism, you'll find more receptive audience on X, trumpie."
Yep it’s racist to identify the writer whose flawed ideology has influenced the other posters world view - he made bank pushing his psiedo intellectual buzz word filled stupid
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LuPone on McDonald May 31 2025, 06:07:40 PM
Ensemble1698878795 said: "ER765 said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "ER765 said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "abcd12 said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "binau said: "Once again we keep hearing this overly simplified idea that only certain groups can be racist. This is a distraction technique - yes it is true that in very specific academic contexts who need to define terms very carefully for their arguments that racism is a complex
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LuPone on McDonald May 30 2025, 10:50:11 PM
iluvtheatertrash said: "TasteOfHoney said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "Ke3 said: "binau said: "I actually wish Audra would step in and try to calm it all down. She is likely the only person people will listen to. Audra, if as you claimed there is no rift between you and Patti surely you don’t want to watch your friend be destroyed for her imperfections. If you are Patti’s friend as you suggested I think she could use the help."
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LuPone on McDonald May 30 2025, 10:23:19 PM
Ensemble1698878795 said: "Ke3 said: "binau said: "I actually wish Audra would step in and try to calm it all down. She is likely the only person people will listen to. Audra, if as you claimed there is no rift between you and Patti surely you don’t want to watch your friend be destroyed for her imperfections. If you are Patti’s friend as you suggested I think she could use the help."
Why would it be Audra's responsibility to &quo
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LuPone on McDonald May 30 2025, 09:58:21 PM
Ensemble1698878795 said: "TasteOfHoney said: "So let me get this right , it is racist to call a show loud if black people are in the show- this is mental illness , what is a micro aggression? This must be some newspeak Orwell talked about ? I would have been angry too if someone called me racist because I thought something was too loud!! This is mental illness- repeat after me- Mental illness"
You’re correct. Racism is mental illness. I’m gla
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LuPone on McDonald May 30 2025, 06:08:38 PM
BroadwayRox3588 said: "TasteOfHoney said: "So let me get this right , it is racist to call a show loud if black people are in the show- this is mental illness , what is a micro aggression? This must be some newspeak Orwell talked about ? I would have been angry too if someone called me racist because I thought something was too loud!! This is mental illness- repeat after me- Mental illness"
Personally, I didn't take any issue with her having sound co
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LuPone on McDonald May 30 2025, 05:51:54 PM
So let me get this right , it is racist to call a show loud if black people are in the show- this is mental illness , what is a micro aggression? This must be some newspeak Orwell talked about ? I would have been angry too if someone called me racist because I thought something was too loud!! This is mental illness- repeat after me- Mental illness
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