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#1

Whats wicked to you?

So far since I have been talking on this site i have been asked not to speak about wicked. I was just wondering which people like wicked and which dont. And why? thanks

Updated On: 5/25/06 at 10:35 PM

#4

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Jack is right. You opened a can of worms on that one.
#6

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Well two things could happen.

This thread could die.

-or-

This will start a huge discussion which i like to call a "food fight" in which people are slinging insults and such at eachother right and left and its just going to be a mess and you are going to end up editing your post saying PLEASE DELETE. That's what happened to me once.
#8

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Jesus. That video. I would like to meet the person who made that.


I cried watching that.
#9

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OK people on this board, including myslef, dislike WICKED because it gets way way too much praise. People go around thinking they are the biggest broadway freaks when the only musical they've ever heard of is WICKED. Wicked is a decent show but it is still far far FAR away from perfect. It also does not deserve to be selling out so far in advance while in the biggest broadway theater.
#12

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That's the reason so many do not like it.

Cause of girls like that who make it like Idina Menzel is the Alpha & Omega..the fanbase is such an annoyance.
#13

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This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, sliced bread is still a mystery compared to this topic...

https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.cfm?boardname=bway&thread=897126#2174306


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Updated On: 5/25/06 at 11:04 PM

#14

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maybe I'm going a little off topic, but I didn't want to start ANOTHER Wicked Post..

I always thought some set peices in Wicked reminded me of Star Trek or Star Wars...lol For instance the Window in her castle, looks like the a command center's captain's window...lol. I work at Trinity Rep and Eugene Lee is their resident set designer, I see him very rarely, but when I do, I kinda want to ask him about it. lol. Its not that hate it, I think it works very well, just out of curiousty if that might've been some of his inspirartion.
"I'll eat some breakfast, then change the world."
#15

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maybe I'm going a little off topic, but I didn't want to start ANOTHER Wicked Post..

I always thought some set peices in Wicked reminded me of Star Trek or Star Wars...lol For instance the Window in her castle, looks like the a command center's captain's window...lol. I work at Trinity Rep and Eugene Lee is their resident set designer, I see him very rarely, but when I do, I kinda want to ask him about it. lol. Its not that hate it, I think it works very well, just out of curiousty if that might've been some of his inspirartion.
"I'll eat some breakfast, then change the world."
#16

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Completely agree about the resemblance to the Star Wars port window. Its almost a hexagon with the criss crossing bars? I find that funny how one subtle set piece in the background brings us back to Star Wars hah
#17

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That video is very sad. Makes one long for William Hung's "Achey Breaky Heart". Maybe they can cast him as Fiyero in "Wicked".

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12647373/
"I've lost everything! Luis, Marty, my baby with Chris, Chris himself, James. All I ever wanted was love." --Sheridan Crane "Passions" ------- "Housework is like bad sex. Every time I do it, I swear I'll never do it again til the next time company comes."--"Lulu" from "Can't Stop The Music" ----- "When the right doors didn't open for him, he went through the wrong ones" - "Sweet Bird of Youth" ------------ --------- "Passions" is uncancelled! See NBC.com for more info.
#18

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Eh, I used to like Wicked. I got the CD, listened to it for awhile and then got over it. Moved on, found something I liked better and listened to THAT for awhile.

The problem that most people have with Wicked is that the majority of it's fanbase DOESN'T move on, and hasn't for about two and a half years now. It gets annoying.

However I will never knock on anyone who only knows Wicked as a Broadway show, etc. Once upon a time the only Bway show I knew was Cats. But the OACR of Cats got me interested in Debbie Byrne which got me to pick up the CSR of Les Mis which got me into Philip Quast which got me into so many other musicals. If someone realizes, hey, I really like this musical thing it doesn't really matter where they start out as long as they get into it and learn as much and listen to as much as they can.

It's the fans who are like "Oh my god, Wicked is the best musical evaaaaaa!!" when the only other shows they've seen are the movie of RENT and their older sister's high school production of Oklahoma.
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I too enjoyed Wicked when it first opened. I listened to the CD and saw the show on Broadway on one of my trips to New York. All in all, I thought it was a fun night at the theater, nowehere near perfect, but just entertaining. I enjoyed the spectacle and the enormous scope, as well as the mostly above-average Stephen Schwartz score. I did think, however that the show's book was a mess.

When I saw Wicked, I was the only person I knew who was even aware of the show. A few months after I came back though, the PHENOMENON set in. Soon, it was the only show people talked about. People, who had never seen or even talked about a Broadway show in their life were now walking down the halls talking about Wicked, or Idina Menzel. Even my schools top choir chose to do a Wicked medley for the spring concert.

The reason I can no longer tolerate Wicked is the OBSESSION! It's one thing to be fanatical, but to some extent the craze has gotten out of control. It isn't just the fact that people now act like Broadway connoisseurs but at the same time say, "Wicked is the best show EV-AR!" It's also the obnoxious, sometimes dangerous behavior at the stage door, or the rude audiences that now fill the Gershwin nightly.

I don't think I have ever seen another show with an obsession quite this intense, not even Rent or Phantom.
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#20

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I like wicked, I am not sure what I like about, I think it maybe the music.

I think some people dont like it becasue it is so overrated, but who cares there are a lot of shows that are overrated ie. rent.

Wicked is not the best show out but it is a good one and I think that it will be on broadway for many more years.
Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the world together."
#21

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I think that it will be on broadway for many more years.

Unfortunately that's very likely.
"I seem to have wandered into the BRAIN load-out thread... "
-best12bars

"Sorry I am a Theatre major not a English Major"
-skibumb5290

#22

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I really liked wicked but I think the only reason I liked it so much was because it was the only show I've actually seen on broadway. Because I live so far away from NY and Regional theatre areas I have to settle for local (some of the local stuff I saw was amazing...but it just doesn't compare to broadway). Had I seen another musical i think I would have liked it just as much.

As for the music in wicked.....I find myself skipping over alot of the songs. There are only a few of them that I actually like.
#23

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I'm pretty sure most people on this site went through a Wicked phase. I personally am still going though that phase, but my enthusiasm for the show is slowly dwindling. I'm hoping the tour will once again spark my interest for it. I think that I have simply gotten tired of the OBCR, and I'm sure I'd have much more fun listening to someone different in the roles.
#24

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Anytime people become so incredibly obsessed with something, others begin to become turned off. So many of these people taping themselves singing and dancing to the songs really undermines the value of the show. Let's face it, it has become almost an embarassment to admit that you like Wicked, because people might think you are "one of those." When ever something becomes a teenage girl obsession, a lot of others tend to become turned off by it.

Some of the comments you hear from Wicked fans are just out of control. Like... "Idina Menzel is the best actress who was ever on Broadway." And "Wicked is the best musical ever. I know because I have seen it 15 times. Even though I have never seen another musical, I know it's the bestest!"

I think Wicked is a good show. I think these obsessed fans are doing the show a dis-service. The same goes for Idina as she is actually pretty terrified of these types of fans.
#25

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I agree with Justchillin that most people have probably gone through a WICKED phase. I remember mine. I would always listen to the Cast Recording every single day. The CD didn't leave my stereo for about three months.

However, I think that some people are just WAY to obsessive over Wicked. Everyone hyped up about it, calling it the best show ever, etc. I expected the show to be just that when I saw it. When I did see it, I thought that is was just good. Not bad, not great, just good. It probably was the hype that ruined it for me.
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