Hi. Last night I saw WICKED at the Gershwin Theater. I loved it. I though the Boq transformation was genius. he sat in Nessa's wheelchair turned around, and it all happened there. But some things I was iffy on, such as when Glinda told "Dorothy" just to "Follow that one road the whole way", then Fiyero and the guards came out. When Fiyero threatened to shoot Glinda if they didn't release Elphaba, shouldn't have Fiyero been off singing "If I only had brain" with Dorothy?
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No because he wasn't transformed into the scarecrow yet. That's when he drops the gun and they tie him up in into the shadow of the scarecrow on the poles and leave him out in the fields.....then Dorothy comes along
Bes888, I see what you're saying. But I think they made that scene a bit too long. There is not that much time from when Dorothy leaves Munchkinland to when she meets the Scarecrow.
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The boq transformation is actually wry simple when the wheel chair goes behind the wardrobe the actor playing steps out (presumably gets in the wardrobe) and an ensemble member in the boq get up, gets into the chair and mimes along to the real actor talking off stage, clever and effective if you're not sat in the first few rows!
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Actually I'm pretty sure that the real Boq hides behind the wardrobe after Elphaba wheels him back there and an understudy stumbles out as the Tin Man for the final part of the scene. At this point the understudy is synching his lips with Boq's voice. This is done because there is not enough time to do costume and makeup for the real Boq.
As far as the OP goes, you shouldn't assume it takes Dorothy two minutes to get from Munchkinland to the cornfield. The movie obviously skips that first part of her journey during which she was alone. I think it lines up quite perfectly so that the guards have had enough time to beat Fiyero senseless and Elphaba cast her spell on him by the time Dorothy discovers him. That said, this creates a couple days of time lapse between "No Good Deed" and "March of the Witch Hunters". Using The Wizard of Oz as a reference, we go from just before Dorothy meets the Scarecrow to Dorothy being a prisoner in Kiamo Ko.
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Tickets: Nevilles Island, Much Ado About Nothing
I am pretty sure the real Boq hides behind the wardrobe after Elphaba wheels him back there and an understudy stumbles out as the Tin Man for the final part of the scene. At this point the understudy is synching his lips with Boq's voice. This is done because there is not enough time to do costume and makeup for the real Boq.
Actually, Joe, the boq transformation is wry simple when the wheel chair goes behind the wardrobe the actor playing steps out (presumably gets in the wardrobe) and an ensemble member in the boq get up, gets into the chair and mimes along to the real actor talking off stage, clever and effective if you're not sat in the first few rows!
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I so thought it was done with a double lip synching to Boq. Gee -- you DO learn something new everyday.
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You know, I hate to keep repeating myself but you are all wrong: The real Boq hides behind the wardrobe after Elphaba wheels him back there and an understudy stumbles out as the Tin Man for the final part of the scene. At this point the understudy is synching his lips with Boq's voice. This is done because there is not enough time to do costume and makeup for the real Boq.
Got it? I took the Behind the Emerald Curtain tour and that is how the guy who played Elphaba's Dad in 2009 explained it.
So the main actor who plays Boq hides behind the wardrobe after the actress who plays Elphaba wheels him back there and an understudy who understudies Boq stumbles out as the Tin Man for the final part of the scene. At this point the aforementioned understudy is synching his lips with the main actor who plays Boq's voice. This is done because there is not enough time to do costume and makeup for the main actor who plays Boq.
He doesn't do that bit as an understudy. That's part of his track. Understudies only perform if the actor playing the part isn't there.
But yes, we get your point. We are trying to conserve keystrokes.
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I don't understand what Joe was saying at all? Wasn't it the same thing I said originally?
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Tickets: Nevilles Island, Much Ado About Nothing
Fact: If you start the LP at the lion's roar, it all synchs up.
Source: I've dressed the track
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Bes888, I see what you're saying. But I think they made that scene a bit too long. There is not that much time from when Dorothy leaves Munchkinland to when she meets the Scarecrow.
In the book, it's the next day. She walks for a long time and spends the night with a group of Munchkins (one farmer is named Boq).
In the MGM movie, there is a dissolve (a lapse of time) before she encounters the Scarecrow. Who's to say how long it's been? It could be hours, at least.
EDIT: Of course the joke is that Judy Garland's pigtails have grown about five inches (in a continuity goof), so maybe it's been a year.
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