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Abby, are you at home watching the coverage on tv with a lubed up cucumber just jackhammering away at yourself looking at the carnage?

Let's not forget about Luby's! George Hennard shot 50 people, killing 23 of them. It was the worst shooting on American soil, until the Virginia Tech massacre.

Fort Hood Shooting was in 2009. Hardly decades ago.

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The Luby's massacre happened in 1991. From Wiki:

"In response to the massacre, the Texas Legislature in 1995 passed a shall-issue gun law, which requires that all qualifying applicants be issued a Concealed Handgun License (the state's required permit to carry concealed weapons), removing the personal discretion of the issuing authority to deny such licenses. To qualify for a license, one must be free-and-clear of crimes, attend a minimum 10-hour class taught by a state-certified instructor, pass a 50-question test, show proficiency in a 50-round shooting test, and pass two background tests, one shallow and one deep. The license costs $240 to $290, depending on the added instructor's fee."

So, a GOP dominated state can issue licenses with two background checks, but when Obama wants to do nationwide checks, that's against the second amendment? How does that work?

Do we need to list all of the shootings? It doesn't matter what year or what laws were in place. People are being murdered.

By your logic, the massacre at Fort Hood shouldn't have happened because 1) not a gun free zone and 2) people were armed.

The facts don't change.

I didn't bring up the assassination of JFK, but I guess I should've.

Yes, 1991, 22 years ago. Can you not count?

And I have no problem with the background checks, you have to have them anyway if you buy a gun through a dealer, it's the no "assault" weapons that bothers me, because the government's definition of an assault rifle isn't always a gun that is meant to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time or a gun that can get off a lot of rounds in very little time. Just because you add a pistol grip to a .22 (which, to you non gun owning people is not a very powerful weapon compared to others), doesn't make it any more powerful, but it's still considered an assault rifle only based on the fact that it has a pistol grip and looks like a scary military weapon.

And jungle red, there are shootings everywhere, not just in states with liberal gun laws, as we have seen in recent months. And I'm not saying there are never shootings in places where guns are allowed, but have you not seen a pattern in the shootings in the last few months? They're almost always in gun-free zones with people who can't protect themselves.

Abby, die.

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So you want me to die for expressing my views? That seems a bit harsh, don't you think? I haven't killed anyone, or even threatened anyone. I disagree with pretty much everything you say but I don't wish death upon you. I thought liberals were supposed to be peaceful since they are always speaking out against bullying and things like that, but you have proved me wrong.

Yep Abbie just F*cking die and do us all here on BWW a favor!

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And these laws will not stop mass shootings. You will realize that when mass shootings continue to happen in gun free areas. Criminals will continue to bring guns where they know no one else will have them, and shoot them, just like in Norway. No one had a chance there because they had absolutely nothing to protect themselves because they were at a camp with no other guns.

But you do have one good point, you don't expect things like that to happen in Norway because Norway has the highest rate of gun ownership in Western Europe and the lowest crime rates. The percentage of gun deaths per 100,000 people is 1.78. So you proved me right, thank you. But I'm assuming you didn't know that otherwise you wouldn't have said it. Maybe you should do your research before posting.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/norway

You only use Britain and Germany as an example because they make your point, but fail to mention Russia, which has strict gun laws yet a much higher homicide rate than the US, because most homicides there are not caused by guns, they find other ways to kill people.

So, Abby, tell me about the theatre in your area. Regional? Just community? High School?

Yes, people die, and the new laws aren't going to stop that from happening, people die every day in Chicago from guns and they have the strictest gun laws in the country, how do you explain that?

Shootings are bad, I totally agree, but please explain how you expect to stop shootings altogether. Because if you have a plan that will stop criminals from going into gun free zones with a gun, I, and I'm sure the government would love to hear it, because that would be great if it was realistic, but it's not realistic, at all, if it was I'm sure someone would have already come up with a plan to stop criminals from being criminals. And stop killers from being killers, but it's never going to happen.