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BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!

BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!

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PalJoey
#0BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!
Posted: 4/7/06 at 7:56am

Bullet points:

# Bush 36% approval
# 40% approve foreign policy and war on terror
# 35%approve policy towards Iraq
# 30% approve GOP Congress
# 49%-33% prefer Democrats running Congress over GOP
# 41% tie - party that people trust to protect the country

Delicious snippet:

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Bush, GOP Approval Ratings Hit New Lows

Just 36 Percent of the Public Approves of the President's Job Performance

By RON FOURNIER, AP

WASHINGTON (April 7) - President Bush's approval ratings hit a series of new lows in an AP-Ipsos poll that also shows Republicans surrendering their advantage on national security - grim election-year news for a party struggling to stay in power.

Democratic leaders predicted they will seize control of one or both chambers of Congress in November. Republicans said they feared the worst unless the political landscape quickly changes.

"These numbers are scary. We've lost every advantage we've ever had," GOP pollster Tony Fabrizio said. "The good news is Democrats don't have much of a plan. The bad news is they may not need one."



Bush, GOP Approval Ratings Hit New Lows


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jrb_actor
#1re: BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!
Posted: 4/7/06 at 7:59am

After yesterday's news, they are just going to get lower.


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bwaysinger
#2re: BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!
Posted: 4/7/06 at 8:18am

If EVER the Democrats needed to show they are something more than preschoolers, now is the time.

touchmeinthemorning
#3re: BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!
Posted: 4/7/06 at 8:49am

They HAVE to come up with a sound byte that helps people understand how awful yesterday's news really is.

Without that, they're gonna mess it all up again.


"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'" -- unknown

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paradox_error
#4re: BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!
Posted: 4/7/06 at 9:28am

What's yesterdays news? What happened?

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doodlenyc
#5re: BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!
Posted: 4/7/06 at 9:31am

Has there EVER been a time in our history that the GOP was tied with the dems over trusting who was better equipped to protect the country? Hasnt that always been the GOPs strongest number?
That amazes, well, even me!

The Dems just cant screw this opportunity up...but if anyone can...(sigh)


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bwaysinger
#6re: BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!
Posted: 4/7/06 at 9:35am

Doxy, Libby, in testimony, said Cheney told him to out Plame and that the order came from Bush.
This after Bush denying knowing anything about it, claiming to be unaware of who the "leaker" was. Turns out it was Cheney, who, according to Libby, was following word from W.

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paradox_error
#7re: BUSH Numbers at ALL-TIME LOW--and FALLING!
Posted: 4/7/06 at 9:48am

Oh wow...

That's huge!

And yet, only the Democrats would be able to let that become a nothing issue... Updated On: 4/7/06 at 09:48 AM

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papalovesmambo
#8the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 9:53am

bway, that's not what the story says. it says that scooter says that cheney told him that bush had declassified the nie (national intelligence estimate) and that he was to make certain information from that report available to reporters. no where in the filing is there any allegation that bush or cheney ordered libby to "out" plame. there are no facts that support that. if in fact bush declassified the nie, then no one leaked classified information. wonder when that dated and signed presidential finding will be made public?


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jrb_actor
#9the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 9:58am

And what Bush did was legal so he can't be impeached even though he has clearly LIED about this whole thing.

There is NO spin. NO way to make this sound pretty and fair and reasonable. BUSH LIED.


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papalovesmambo
#10the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:02am

what did he lie about jerby?


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

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jrb_actor
#11the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:06am

He told reporters constantly that he knew nothing about anything and that if he did find out anything, they would be fired. CLEARLY, if he had declassified information that made the leak not a leak, he knew what the hell was going on and lied to the press and the country.

It's a HUGE credibility issue no matter how you look at it or what kind of Rovian spin any of the blogger try to put on it.


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papalovesmambo
#12the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:09am

that's not exactly what he said, now is it jerby? that's your interpretation of what he said.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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Craig
#13the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:16am

Bush has become a parody of himself. Really.. it's frightening


"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka

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doodlenyc
#14the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:18am

Barbara must be so disgusted with him.


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"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS

touchmeinthemorning
#15the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:23am

I think Ms. Streisand has made it public that she is not happy with Bush.


"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'" -- unknown

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bwaysinger
#16the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:25am

Well, no, of course he didn't say "go out Plame." Actually, I would imagine he did. the new cw

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YouWantitWhen????
#17the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:25am

Papa, I am going off of recollection only, so it could be in error . . .

But when this mess all started, I thought Bush said that no one in his administration was involved in leaking the info, and if he found out someone was, they would in fact be fired.

This changed when a true investigation could take place. Then, when Rove and Libby were identified as involved, his tune changed.

Now, stories are emerging from court filings, that "The papers cited Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, as testifying to a federal grand jury that Cheney had told him that Bush authorized him to disclose information from a secret National Intelligence Estimate to a New York Times reporter in July 2003."

This means Bush himself was involved in authorizing the disclosure. It was more than what you imply.

He should fire himself, Cheney, Rove under the standard he first set. They were all apparently involved in leaking the information.

Bush said to have cleared Iraq leak

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papalovesmambo
#18the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:39am

president bush, 9/30/03:

"i don't know of anybody in my administration who leaked classified information. if somebody did leak classified information, i'd like to know it, and we'll take the appropriate action."

this the statement you mean? if the document had been declassified, then this is moot, huh?

it's pretty much the same thing that lbj did to roger hilsman when he wrote to move a nation in '68.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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bwaysinger
#19the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:44am

you mean being vague and technically telling the truth while omitting anything resembling actual facts, as in, "Oh, yeah, I declassified that, so it wasn't actually a leak."
Either way, Papa, he looks like a sleazebag mudslinger.

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jrb_actor
#20the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:46am

Just remember that YOUR party tried to kick Clinton out of office despite semantics and definitions of words, etc.

And that was over a blow job.

I'm sorry but that you would rather defend that SOB than the truth about ANY of the MANY terrible things he has done is sad and disgusting.

I will NEVER understand how you can defend HIM. Be Republican---that doesn't matter to me. But to defend THIS man and his admin is deplorable.


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papalovesmambo
#21the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:49am

well, no, bway, because this brings up the question of were those statements relating specifically to the leaking of plame's identity or to the information in the nie.

if taken to mean plame's identity, it doesn't change anything as it's not been alleged that either the pres or vp encouraged or approved that. if however, this statement refers to the information in the nie, it's a different story. so it comes down to what in fact his statement was regarding. and no, they're not the same thing.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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robbiej
#22the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:49am

I hate Bush. HATE HATE HATE Bush.

But I'm siding with papa...as of right now. If it was declassified, then there really isn't much of an issue here.

There are many, many, many, many reasons to hate Bush. And I agree that I don't understand papa's or any other Republican's total support of THIS Republican.

But I don't think this is the smoking gun.


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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jrb_actor
#23the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:56am

So then WHY did Bush not say years ago, there is no crime here--end the investigation--I declassified all this??


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robbiej
#24the new cw
Posted: 4/7/06 at 10:59am

There may very well be a trail to something else...who knows.

But it's a bit premature to start playing our Babra recordings of 'Happy Days are Here Again'


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."


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