Baggy pants really an issue?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:09am

Read the link....it's about the high school I graduated from.
Baggy Pants Trigger Protest

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:11am

Wow. A video camera? is that neccessary? I think someone is going to use that video for their own gain. That is rediculous though, to be honest. I mean, yes they should follow the dress code, but that is WAY to extreme

[Unknown User]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:13am

I guess you have to know our vice principal. He's one of those guys who pretty much run the school, and the real principal lets him do it.

Our vice principal is also a ****ing idiot.

[chinkie azn jai]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:49am

If that happened to me (yes i wear slightly baggy pants..not all the was past my butt) I would be outraged too. That's just not right.

[LadyGuenevere]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:51am

They can have a rule against it in the dress code, which I would agree with- because I don't like seeing guys' asses when they bend over. (Same for girls, but that's another story) But that's just a bit extreme, the video camera stuff...

[broadwaystar2b]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:57am

Arresting kids for wearing baggy pants
can we spell "a-n-a-l" boys & girls?

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:09pm

We need to arrest some of these teachers then for what they wear. In my school, I thought it was a rule that I teacher couldn't wear a skirt above their knees unless they had nylons and closed toed shoes. Well, one teacher didn't have nylons and wore sandels, and no one did anything about it.

I don't think dress codes solve problems completely. In eigth grade, I had to follow a dress code...not a uniform, but we were limited to certain colored polo shirts, Oxford shirts, khaki or navy slacks, skirts (couldn't be above 4" above the knee), and your basic dress code attire. Why dress codes don't always solve problems:

1) Dress codes are supposed to put everyone on an equal level. Well, what about the accessories or way girls wear their hair...can't people make fun of that?

2) Dress codes are supposed to help save money. What if you have a family of four kids, and you buy uniforms clothes for all of them, which they will never wear again unless they are in school? Can't that get expensive?

[chinkie azn jai]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:15pm

"We need to arrest some of these teachers then for what they wear" thats so true. There was this really bitchy substitute teacher who had batwings (you know, in the arms) and she always wore sleeve-less shirts. It was gross.

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:33pm

Also, in middle school, we had 2 different "teams." The whole 7th grade class was divided into two teams of teachers. Well, some girls on my team got sent down to the office for wearing sleeveless shirts. Some of those sleveless shirts weren't even revealing or showing off anything...they even covered the shoulders, but the teacher sent them down to the office anyway to cover up. However, when we were in the cafeteria, we pointed out to a teacher to a girl on another team who wore a tank top, and why no one said anything to her. The teacher replied, "It's not spaghetti straps." Bull! They were thin!

[Plum]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:52pm

Millie- believe it or not, uniforms really do help reduce the whole "clothes as status symbol" thing, and they do save money. Take this from someone who knows several people who had to wear uniforms until college and found the transition a bit odd. Uniforms aren't that evil. Seriously.

But I'm less into clothing than most people, so my perspective might be a bit skewed.

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 1:56pm

As someone who went to a high school with common sense and therefore did not wear uniforms, I find the whole argument for uniforms rediculous. How does it save money??

Take this from someone who knows several people who had to wear uniforms until college and found the transition a bit odd.

Probably because they had to buy a bunch of new clothes all of a sudden, because they didn't have any from wearing a uniform for so many years. The fashion transition for me from high school to university was seemless.

Updated On: 8/29/04 at 01:56 PM

[broadwaystar2b]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:10pm

I had uniforms in elementry school
dress code in middle school
and uniforms again for high school
I can't wait for college

[LadyGuenevere]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:12pm

I support uniforms, and YES, they do save money. At least with the girls who have to buy a new outfit every freaking week.

[Plum]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:05pm

BlueWizard, read your post. You answered your own question.

And if baggy pants mean so little, why are kids so adamant about keeping them? Updated On: 8/29/04 at 03:05 PM

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:19pm

I kind of support uniforms, because when I was in public school, kids got made fun of for their clothes all the time. Some people were really poor and could not afford name brand clothes and therefore, they were constantly picked on. When you wear uniforms, everyone is dressed the same and that cuts down on being an outcast just because of your clothes. Does that make sense to anyone? lol

[Plum]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:26pm

Completely, spider. Some people go to schools with socioeconomically homogeneous populations. Mine, on ther other hand, were not. And are not. And quite honestly, getting picked on for my clothes wasn't my favorite pastime in middle school. So there's my revelation of bias.

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:41pm

I just keep recalling that episode of the Simpsons, where Principal Skinner uses the uniforms to instill a sense of conformity and dullness into the student's lives. But then the rain came down, and the tye-dye kids went crazy!!

[Kelliexo90]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:52pm

Uniforms did squat at my school. Kids still got teased. The 'in' thing was to roll your skirt shorter. These wicked b!tchy girls made fun of the other girls who's skirts weren't hoochy short. Then there's the hair, the shoes, the makeup, the accessories... just as millie said. If it isn't one thing, it's another. All uniforms did for me was cause endless annoyances because I never had my shirt tucked in. Psh.

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:56pm

These wicked b!tchy girls made fun of the other girls who's skirts weren't hoochy short

Yeah, those awful Wicked fans are so nasty.

[Kelliexo90]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 4:08pm

Hahah, I'm told that people off of the east-coast don't use wicked in their everyday language. Apparently its true. I didn't have any clue what you were talking about until I looked really hard at what I had said.

These extremely b!tchy girls...

[kissmycookie]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:32pm

Well, would administration prefer baggy pants or hot pants?

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:38pm

Plum: I understand why you think uniforms aren't "evil." The problem with my school was that I grew up wearing what I wanted. Then all of a sudden in 8th grade, I had to wear a uniform...I wasn't used to the style of clothing. I'd rather be comfortable. Therefore, the transition was a bit more difficult for me (not "I'm falling and can't get up" difficult). Luckily, the uniform went from K-8, and the high school didn't have a dress code policy.

[Plum]

Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:47pm

I can definitely see how uniforms make people uncomfortable, but there's worse things to worry about, really. And you know in other countries it's standard policy for students to wear uniforms? My parents always had to observe a very strict dress code in school, and then they went straight to the army, so it's no big deal in my family. :P

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 8/30/04 at 12:22pm

Today, in my newspaper (New Haven Register) a girl's mother opposed a dress code at a school her daughter was going to. The daughter opposed it too. If the daughter continually goes to school in non-uniform clothes, she could get expelled/transfered to another school. The only problem: the school is the only one in the area with an accelerated (sp?) program for gifted students.

The school board is claiming that the uniforms help a student academically perform better in school and that it helps students feel more confident about how they look.

First of all, a uniform isn't going to make one study any harder than they did before a uniform. Even with the uniforms, I found the same students who got low grades still got low grades, and the same students who usually got high grades still got high grades. Second, I didn't feel confident about the way I looked. The first day I came in, I didn't know what to expect, and I wore a white Oxford shirt (tucked in - they had to be) with shorts down to my knee! And someone laughed at me anyway. Girls especially can get away with the uniforms...replacing khaki slacks with tight khaki flares...high black heels...shorter skirts. I feel more confident and comfortable wearing a sweatshirt and jeans.

[robbiej]

Posted: 8/30/04 at 12:55pm

As a lefty liberal democrat...I'm somehow incongruously in favor of uniforms in school (public and private).

I went to a catholic school that had a dress code, but not a uniform. I would have much preferred to wear a uniform. It takes the bull**** away.

And for anyone who screams 'but what of students individuality and freedom of expression?'...put the freaking art, music and drama classes back into schools and let kids express themselves that way. Everyone will benefit.