#1
Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:09am
Read the link....it's about the high school I graduated from.
Baggy Pants Trigger Protest
Baggy Pants Trigger Protest
Baggy pants really an issue?
#2
Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:11am
Wow. A video camera? is that neccessary? I think someone is going to use that video for their own gain. That is rediculous though, to be honest. I mean, yes they should follow the dress code, but that is WAY to extreme
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#3
Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:13am
I guess you have to know our vice principal. He's one of those guys who pretty much run the school, and the real principal lets him do it.
Our vice principal is also a ****ing idiot.
Our vice principal is also a ****ing idiot.
#4
Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:49am
If that happened to me (yes i wear slightly baggy pants..not all the was past my butt) I would be outraged too. That's just not right.
"Chicago is it's own incredible theater town right there smack down in the middle of the heartland. What a great city! I can see why Oprah likes to live there!" - Dee Hoty :-D
#5
Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:51am
They can have a rule against it in the dress code, which I would agree with- because I don't like seeing guys' asses when they bend over. (Same for girls, but that's another story) But that's just a bit extreme, the video camera stuff...
#6
Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:57am
Arresting kids for wearing baggy pants
can we spell "a-n-a-l" boys & girls?
can we spell "a-n-a-l" boys & girls?
#7
Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:09pm
We need to arrest some of these teachers then for what they wear. In my school, I thought it was a rule that I teacher couldn't wear a skirt above their knees unless they had nylons and closed toed shoes. Well, one teacher didn't have nylons and wore sandels, and no one did anything about it.
I don't think dress codes solve problems completely. In eigth grade, I had to follow a dress code...not a uniform, but we were limited to certain colored polo shirts, Oxford shirts, khaki or navy slacks, skirts (couldn't be above 4" above the knee), and your basic dress code attire. Why dress codes don't always solve problems:
1) Dress codes are supposed to put everyone on an equal level. Well, what about the accessories or way girls wear their hair...can't people make fun of that?
2) Dress codes are supposed to help save money. What if you have a family of four kids, and you buy uniforms clothes for all of them, which they will never wear again unless they are in school? Can't that get expensive?
I don't think dress codes solve problems completely. In eigth grade, I had to follow a dress code...not a uniform, but we were limited to certain colored polo shirts, Oxford shirts, khaki or navy slacks, skirts (couldn't be above 4" above the knee), and your basic dress code attire. Why dress codes don't always solve problems:
1) Dress codes are supposed to put everyone on an equal level. Well, what about the accessories or way girls wear their hair...can't people make fun of that?
2) Dress codes are supposed to help save money. What if you have a family of four kids, and you buy uniforms clothes for all of them, which they will never wear again unless they are in school? Can't that get expensive?
"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611
#8
Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:15pm
"We need to arrest some of these teachers then for what they wear" thats so true. There was this really bitchy substitute teacher who had batwings (you know, in the arms) and she always wore sleeve-less shirts. It was gross.
"Chicago is it's own incredible theater town right there smack down in the middle of the heartland. What a great city! I can see why Oprah likes to live there!" - Dee Hoty :-D
#9
Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:33pm
Also, in middle school, we had 2 different "teams." The whole 7th grade class was divided into two teams of teachers. Well, some girls on my team got sent down to the office for wearing sleeveless shirts. Some of those sleveless shirts weren't even revealing or showing off anything...they even covered the shoulders, but the teacher sent them down to the office anyway to cover up. However, when we were in the cafeteria, we pointed out to a teacher to a girl on another team who wore a tank top, and why no one said anything to her. The teacher replied, "It's not spaghetti straps." Bull! They were thin!
"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611
#10
Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:52pm
Millie- believe it or not, uniforms really do help reduce the whole "clothes as status symbol" thing, and they do save money. Take this from someone who knows several people who had to wear uniforms until college and found the transition a bit odd. Uniforms aren't that evil. Seriously.
But I'm less into clothing than most people, so my perspective might be a bit skewed.
But I'm less into clothing than most people, so my perspective might be a bit skewed.
#11
Posted: 8/29/04 at 1:56pm
As someone who went to a high school with common sense and therefore did not wear uniforms, I find the whole argument for uniforms rediculous. How does it save money??
Take this from someone who knows several people who had to wear uniforms until college and found the transition a bit odd.
Probably because they had to buy a bunch of new clothes all of a sudden, because they didn't have any from wearing a uniform for so many years. The fashion transition for me from high school to university was seemless.
Take this from someone who knows several people who had to wear uniforms until college and found the transition a bit odd.
Probably because they had to buy a bunch of new clothes all of a sudden, because they didn't have any from wearing a uniform for so many years. The fashion transition for me from high school to university was seemless.
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Updated On: 8/29/04 at 01:56 PM
#12
Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:10pm
I had uniforms in elementry school
dress code in middle school
and uniforms again for high school
I can't wait for college
dress code in middle school
and uniforms again for high school
I can't wait for college
#13
Posted: 8/29/04 at 2:12pm
I support uniforms, and YES, they do save money. At least with the girls who have to buy a new outfit every freaking week.
#14
Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:05pm
BlueWizard, read your post. You answered your own question.
And if baggy pants mean so little, why are kids so adamant about keeping them?
And if baggy pants mean so little, why are kids so adamant about keeping them?
Updated On: 8/29/04 at 03:05 PM
#15
Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:19pm
I kind of support uniforms, because when I was in public school, kids got made fun of for their clothes all the time. Some people were really poor and could not afford name brand clothes and therefore, they were constantly picked on. When you wear uniforms, everyone is dressed the same and that cuts down on being an outcast just because of your clothes. Does that make sense to anyone? lol
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#16
Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:26pm
Completely, spider. Some people go to schools with socioeconomically homogeneous populations. Mine, on ther other hand, were not. And are not. And quite honestly, getting picked on for my clothes wasn't my favorite pastime in middle school. So there's my revelation of bias.
#17
Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:41pm
I just keep recalling that episode of the Simpsons, where Principal Skinner uses the uniforms to instill a sense of conformity and dullness into the student's lives. But then the rain came down, and the tye-dye kids went crazy!!
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HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
#18
Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:52pm
Uniforms did squat at my school. Kids still got teased. The 'in' thing was to roll your skirt shorter. These wicked b!tchy girls made fun of the other girls who's skirts weren't hoochy short. Then there's the hair, the shoes, the makeup, the accessories... just as millie said. If it isn't one thing, it's another. All uniforms did for me was cause endless annoyances because I never had my shirt tucked in. Psh.
What is Broadway? A street? Some say it's a street. Some say it is the best street in the world. Others think its terrible. That's the beauty of it, it's terribly beautiful. Some hate it and don't know why. Others love it and don't know why. That's what makes it so wonderful, it's a mystery.
#19
Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:56pm
These wicked b!tchy girls made fun of the other girls who's skirts weren't hoochy short
Yeah, those awful Wicked fans are so nasty.
Yeah, those awful Wicked fans are so nasty.
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HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
#20
Posted: 8/29/04 at 4:08pm
Hahah, I'm told that people off of the east-coast don't use wicked in their everyday language. Apparently its true. I didn't have any clue what you were talking about until I looked really hard at what I had said.
These extremely b!tchy girls...
These extremely b!tchy girls...
What is Broadway? A street? Some say it's a street. Some say it is the best street in the world. Others think its terrible. That's the beauty of it, it's terribly beautiful. Some hate it and don't know why. Others love it and don't know why. That's what makes it so wonderful, it's a mystery.
#21
Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:32pm
Well, would administration prefer baggy pants or hot pants?
#22
Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:38pm
Plum: I understand why you think uniforms aren't "evil." The problem with my school was that I grew up wearing what I wanted. Then all of a sudden in 8th grade, I had to wear a uniform...I wasn't used to the style of clothing. I'd rather be comfortable. Therefore, the transition was a bit more difficult for me (not "I'm falling and can't get up" difficult). Luckily, the uniform went from K-8, and the high school didn't have a dress code policy.
"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611
#23
Posted: 8/29/04 at 11:47pm
I can definitely see how uniforms make people uncomfortable, but there's worse things to worry about, really. And you know in other countries it's standard policy for students to wear uniforms? My parents always had to observe a very strict dress code in school, and then they went straight to the army, so it's no big deal in my family. :P
#24
Posted: 8/30/04 at 12:22pm
Today, in my newspaper (New Haven Register) a girl's mother opposed a dress code at a school her daughter was going to. The daughter opposed it too. If the daughter continually goes to school in non-uniform clothes, she could get expelled/transfered to another school. The only problem: the school is the only one in the area with an accelerated (sp?) program for gifted students.
The school board is claiming that the uniforms help a student academically perform better in school and that it helps students feel more confident about how they look.
First of all, a uniform isn't going to make one study any harder than they did before a uniform. Even with the uniforms, I found the same students who got low grades still got low grades, and the same students who usually got high grades still got high grades. Second, I didn't feel confident about the way I looked. The first day I came in, I didn't know what to expect, and I wore a white Oxford shirt (tucked in - they had to be) with shorts down to my knee! And someone laughed at me anyway. Girls especially can get away with the uniforms...replacing khaki slacks with tight khaki flares...high black heels...shorter skirts. I feel more confident and comfortable wearing a sweatshirt and jeans.
The school board is claiming that the uniforms help a student academically perform better in school and that it helps students feel more confident about how they look.
First of all, a uniform isn't going to make one study any harder than they did before a uniform. Even with the uniforms, I found the same students who got low grades still got low grades, and the same students who usually got high grades still got high grades. Second, I didn't feel confident about the way I looked. The first day I came in, I didn't know what to expect, and I wore a white Oxford shirt (tucked in - they had to be) with shorts down to my knee! And someone laughed at me anyway. Girls especially can get away with the uniforms...replacing khaki slacks with tight khaki flares...high black heels...shorter skirts. I feel more confident and comfortable wearing a sweatshirt and jeans.
"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611
#25
Posted: 8/30/04 at 12:55pm
As a lefty liberal democrat...I'm somehow incongruously in favor of uniforms in school (public and private).
I went to a catholic school that had a dress code, but not a uniform. I would have much preferred to wear a uniform. It takes the bull**** away.
And for anyone who screams 'but what of students individuality and freedom of expression?'...put the freaking art, music and drama classes back into schools and let kids express themselves that way. Everyone will benefit.
I went to a catholic school that had a dress code, but not a uniform. I would have much preferred to wear a uniform. It takes the bull**** away.
And for anyone who screams 'but what of students individuality and freedom of expression?'...put the freaking art, music and drama classes back into schools and let kids express themselves that way. Everyone will benefit.
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