BroadwayWorld Member 'Survivor' Official Thread - #1Elphie is the Winner!- Page 6

[#1Elphie]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 1:10pm

How are you so quick!?
oh well, congrats Divas.

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 1:13pm

i bow to fellow team member JJDUDE, but contend the phrase "better known as" implies "The Pope" as a correct answer.

After all, there was only one Karol Wojtyla who became Pope. It's not like there were two, with different Papal names, who began a Theatre called Rhapsodic.

Updated On: 4/19/05 at 01:13 PM

[ckeaton]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 1:22pm

The Pope as of the time of the question was J. Ratzinger.

Your team won, and you get credit for playing. But the insurance underwriters of the cash prize insist on specifics. hehe.

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 1:25pm

You're right about the Pope of the moment in 1941/1942, but Karol was not known as any name but his own "as of the time of the question." Neither John Paul II nor Pope. "better known as" referred to his notoriety after becoming Pope.

[#1Elphie]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 1:31pm

Ratzinger was the Pope at the time the question was asked.
To me, the answer "The Pope" sounds like it refers to Ratzinger, the current Pope.
You won, anyway!

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 2:49pm

i know our team won, i just like words and semantics.

When the question was asked (though it referred to 1941) we were just deciding who was Pope (since the question was asked today). The reference of 1941 was about the theatre this person started, not how this person was "better known as"...he wasn't "better known as" either "the Pope" or "Pope John Paul II" until 1978, which is neither now nor 1941. It's all in how you define "better"; after 1978, many Catholics might know Karol Wojtyla as "Pope John Paul II" but the majority of the world knew him as "the Pope". Just like we refer to the current person in the White House as "the President" without always using a formal name. So for the majority of the world's population, from 1978 to 2005, he could be said to be "better known as" the Pope.

Oct. 16, 1978 -- Cardinal Karol Wojtyla of Krakow is elected pope and takes the name John Paul II. He is the first Pole to be elected pope and the first on-Italian pontiff in 455 years.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:NBIRFtuDYm0J:www.cbn.com/spirituallife/ChurchAndMinistry/KarolWojtylaPopeJohnPaulTimeline.asp+%22Karol+Wojtyla%22+ordained&hl=en

see what i mean?

Updated On: 4/19/05 at 02:49 PM

[ckeaton]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 2:52pm

I enjoy the fact that by volunteering to run this silly game, I've opened myself to semantic assault.

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 2:57pm

not trying to assault at all; i just like thinking things through. i accept that you choose the other answer as correct, but the debater in me responded to the logic of the reason why.

Not everything has to be adversarial. Civil discussion is a good thing.

[ckeaton]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 3:00pm

That link is stretching the page.
As the producer of the game, I have the final say.

I liked my semantic "trap" and I knew that someone would fall into it.

[apdarcey]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 3:44pm

ckeaton and tx i love you both! glad we got immunity again kids seeing as i couldn't be here at 1... anyway, see you all tonight for immunity again!

tx, wicked jealous that you're in falsettos right now... who are you? i have the opportunity to be in it next year and i will be very upset if i can't!

[Liam]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 3:44pm

you guys should all join my game!!!!! :)

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 4:02pm

CK, your graphic for the game had already stretched the thread from the first post.

i just saw FALSETTOS, no need for envy.

i'm not so sure it was a "trap" so much as ambigously worded and fuzzily rationalized, on either side.

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 7:19pm

when will the standings be updated? JJ should get his due as the last correct answer winning our team immunity. Is there a game tonight at 7?

EDIT: meaning 8 pm EST

Updated On: 4/19/05 at 07:19 PM

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 7:30pm

Yeah there will be questions in a half hour. I hope they go right up at 8 though, I don't wanna stay at work any longer than I have to.

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 7:40pm

i hear ya, Magnum.

[ckeaton]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 8:00pm

Alright folks... Today, The Ovations have voted off two members. The sixth member voted off is wickedrentq.

The vote tally was:
wickedrentq - 3 votes
Liam - 1 vote
Justice - 1 vote
#1Elphie
Carl Magnum


Round 7!


Name the musical and the song for each of the following lyrics:

A) 'Seedlings turn overnight to sunflowers, blossoming even as we gaze'

B)'Small pleasures, small pleasures, who would deny us these'

[ckeaton]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 8:05pm

In a PM recieved at 08:01:54 PM TxTwoStep won the challenge for The Divas

Fiddler on the Roof Sunrise, Sunset
Oliver! It's a Fine Life

The Ovations are having a really tough run here! Hopefully they can answer back tomorrow at 1 pm EST when another player is voted off, and round 8 begins!

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 8:06pm

yeah, JJ and DARCEY, we did it again. Thanks, CK. Diva-licious!

[ckeaton]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 8:07pm

Carl Magnum, you missed by seconds. Literally. But you were correct also!

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 8:07pm

oh, and to the best sport on The Ovations, ELPHIE, sorry about that. i bet i see you in the final four, however!

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 8:08pm

MAGNUM is indeed a formidable foe. i wonder at what point the tribes will have to merge?

[ckeaton]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 8:21pm

If there is a merge, it would occur in the next 1 to 3 rounds. There may be another twist coming though!

Congratulations to the teams.
Probst is very excited to see alliances forming.

[apdarcey]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 8:33pm

tx... i had the answer, typed and ready to send and the announcement came that you won it for us. i was so proud!

[jjdude2000]

Posted: 4/19/05 at 9:05pm

GO DIVAS!!!

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 4/20/05 at 11:45am

Thnx DARCEY.

i wonder if the twist will be that the immunity tribe votes a member of the OTHER tribe?!?!?

i'm not sure i can do 8 pm EST tonight, JJ and DARCEY, can you two?!?!?

Updated On: 4/20/05 at 11:45 AM