Clinton wins easily in Puerto Rico- Page 2

[romantico]

Posted: 6/2/08 at 11:48am

Daily Kos Hates Hillary as does Huffpost. An OP is not a new story. Its an opinion. 50% of the Democrats are pissed and I blame the DNC and Dean for most of that (although the Obama supporters sure aren't helping their candidate)

Obama needs to prove himself now more than ever.He can't do it at the convention or in July or in the next couple of weeks. He needs to do it NOW. If he wants their nominee and the White House come November, DO SOMETHING NOW or step aside.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/2/08 at 12:00pm

What PJ is saying is different than what I'm saying.

No. I was saying what I was saying not what you were saying I was saying.

If she's overwhelmingly popular, as has been seen, with Puerto Ricans both here and in Puerto Rico, as well as Mexican-Americans, Dominicans and other Spanish-speaking voters, then the landslide in Puerto Rico confirms the polls that have been saying Spanish-speaking voters (except for college-age students) support her to a much greater degree than they support Obama.

Updated On: 6/2/08 at 12:00 PM

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 6/2/08 at 12:01pm

Meanwhile, on the REAL ENEMY FRONT, John McCain has made Weekly Standard writer Michael Goldfarb his Deputy Communications Manager.

Here is some of his pro-dictatorship, pro-war, pro-torture homilies!

Last April, this newest McCain official participated in a conference call with former Senator George Mitchell, during which Mitchell advocated a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. Afterwards, this is what Goldfarb wrote about what he thinks are the powers the President possesses in our country:

"Mitchell's less than persuasive answer [to whether withdrawal timetables "somehow infringe on the president's powers as commander in chief?"]: "Congress is a coequal branch of government...the framers did not want to have one branch in charge of the government."

True enough, but they sought an energetic executive with near dictatorial power in pursuing foreign policy and war. So no, the Constitution does not put Congress on an equal footing with the executive in matters of national security."

Kristol closes his boastful announcement by noting that the pro-dictatorial Goldfarb will return to the Weekly Standard after the campaign ends -- "unless he's appointed national security adviser in the McCain White House." Somehow, McCain continues to be depicted in the media as a "moderate" and the like despite the enthusiastic support of our nation's most crazed and unprincipled warmongers. But even more revealing is that McCain is now staffing his communications apparatus at the highest levels by reaching into Bill Kristol's The Weekly Standard -- one of the most deceptive propaganda organs of the Bush years. Does one even need to point out that there are few things more incompatible with one another than "straight talk" and The Weekly Standard?

UPDATE: Michael Goldfarb on waterboarding and other illegal interrogation practices internationally considered to be "torture" (h/t A.L.):

"The Times indicts the Bush administration for exposing terrorists captured abroad to "head-slapping, simulated drowning and frigid temperatures." Boo hoo."
McCain is a deeply principled opponent of torture and waterboarding which is why his new communications official's view of objections to those techniques is "Boo hoo."

UPDATE II: Last October, this is what Goldfarb wrote in arguing that telecoms deserve amnesty even if they broke the law in enabling warrantless spying on Americans:

"[I]f federal agents show up at a corporate headquarters for a major American company and urgently seek that company's officers for assistance in the war on terror, the companies damn well ought to give it as a matter of simple patriotism, whether the CIA wants a plane for some extraordinary rendition or help in tracking terrorists via email. . . . [T]o expect a company to resist a plea from the government for help in a time of war is ridiculous."

So, consistent with his President-as-Dictator vision, McCain's new communications official believes that -- as I wrote at the time -- when "federal agents" come knocking at your door and issue orders, you better "damn well" obey -- you had better not "resist" -- even if the orders you're being given are illegal, even if they're designed to spy on Americans in violation of the law, and even if they're intended to facilitate the torture of detainees. That's what patriotic Americans do -- they obey the orders of their near-dictatorial Leader, so sayeth the heel-clicking Michael Goldfarb. That's a superb, and very mainstream, new addition to the maverick McCain team.

via Glen Greenwald, salon.com

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 6/2/08 at 12:10pm

"Obama needs to prove himself now more than ever.He can't do it at the convention or in July or in the next couple of weeks. He needs to do it NOW. If he wants their nominee and the White House come November, DO SOMETHING NOW or step aside."

What do you mean? He has proven himself, he won the damn primary. He can't fully take the wheel until Clinton steps down which is what you seem to have been in support of, so really start being realistic here. He's still wildly popular. Despite all of this John McCain is in really bad shape. He is running unopposed right now and still trails Obama. It's just not going to shape up for McCain unless he picks Huckabee.



"No. I was saying what I was saying not what you were saying I was saying. "

Ok.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/2/08 at 12:37pm

Te quiero, papito, te quiero.

[RetroBoy]

Posted: 6/2/08 at 12:54pm

^ bwahahahahaha!

[romantico]

Posted: 6/2/08 at 12:56pm

"What do you mean? He has proven himself, he won the damn primary. He can't fully take the wheel until Clinton steps down which is what you seem to have been in support of, so really start being realistic here. He's still wildly popular. Despite all of this John McCain is in really bad shape. He is running unopposed right now and still trails Obama. It's just not going to shape up for McCain unless he picks Huckabee."

Look, Obama has said Hillary should keep going as long as she wants. YOUR candidate said that and now your questioning it? Can't fully take the wheel? He has taken the wheel. He focuses on McCain now not Hillary. HE IS THE NOMINEE. SO anyone bitching on her still being in the race really does baffle me. Why do supporters care at this point? He's got the nominee!

A LOT can happen between now and November.Don't think McCain is doing so poorly that Barak can just phone it in. As much as I like Obama him and his supporters are way too arrogant and that will be what costs him the election.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 6/2/08 at 1:08pm

"Look, Obama has said Hillary should keep going as long as she wants. YOUR candidate said that and now your questioning it? Can't fully take the wheel? He has taken the wheel. He focuses on McCain now not Hillary. HE IS THE NOMINEE. SO anyone bitching on her still being in the race really does baffle me. Why do supporters care at this point? He's got the nominee!"

You are missing my point. He is not the nominee and wont be until Hillary steps aside. Yes, he is campaigning against McCain. I was responding to your comments romantico. You say he has to prove himself and can't wait till the convention. Well he is NOT the nominee. It's up to Clinton to step aside and I'm not sure that's her plan. He is doing what he can to win this and yes it would be different if he were the nominee but he isn't. But he has proven himself and he is a great candidate for us.


"A LOT can happen between now and November.Don't think McCain is doing so poorly that Barak can just phone it in."

Obama will not just "phone it in." He couldn't do it with Clinton (who was a MUCH tougher opponent) and he can't do it with McCain. The difference in the general is that John McCain is not even fully supported by his party. People on here say the Democrats are divided, the Republicans are a mess, many wont even vote.


"As much as I like Obama him and his supporters are way too arrogant and that will be what costs him the election."

The only arrogance I really see now is that people want this man to be president. Millions do. They arrogance I see is anger against the Bush administration for crimes and corruption that make their heads spin. People ARE riled up and they will turn out in record numbers.