Conservative Christians Worried About — Page 2

God, Pengy, I really do love you.
Thank you. Yes. I say this all the time and people dismiss it out-of-hand...mainstream Christianity today is not built upon one thing Jesus said. It's built upon what Paul said.

No, I got it, Gotham, I was just reiterating the point.

What do you care what all the heathens and pagans think anyway?

Gotham, funny that you tell him not to make assumptions based on nothing, yet your decisions are nothing but pure conjecture as well.

oh my! The spreaders of hate get a taste of their own medicine! WAH.

Here's the deal: what these conservative Christians want is unAmerican. They would be pleased to see America as being "reclaimed for Jesus", which goes against EVERYTHING this country was founded on. And, they want to take away or deny other people's rights when no one is trying to take away or deny their rights.

My getting the right to marry does NOT affect them or deny them their rights. But, their putting up Constitutional Amendments DOES affect me and deny me my rights. THAT is unAmerican.

And any group that is behaving like the conservative Christians are DESERVES criticism and to be stopped from their "American Taliban" crusade.

And the rest of Christianity in this country should be JUST as interested in reclaiming the religion away from these nut jobs.

Furthermore, let's remember that these people aren't just wanting to take away gay people's freedoms, they want to take away straight people's freedoms: choice, sex, porn, etc. So, it will be VERY interesting when straight people (who haven't in general yet) catch on that their freedoms are under attack, too.

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Well, that's different. They actually believe you should die and you don't believe they should. You really shouldn't attack them for their beliefs.

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Gotham those statements are not based on nothing;
The passage from Luke, implies Jesus could read because the author of Luke was trying to appeal to upper classes. Neither a tax collector nor a doctor would have been expected to write in the 1st century back water Roman town.
It is not conjecture but rather SEVERAL CENTURIES of scholarship.
The point you so convienently missed in your attempt to blast me is that Jesus did not write any of the works we have today, we are forced to make conjecture about the nature of what Jesus wanted.
I did not mention John for a reason, John's gospel is a philosophical resoursce and intended to spread the idea of Jesus, it was written well after the rest and has little relevance to the life of Jesus.

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jrb: Most of the "living" or modern english translations fall prey to that, as does the NIV and New King James. The Revised Standard Versions, and several interliniar accounts try very hard to go back to the original languages and lose the vitriol of the anti-gay rhetoric.

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Where are you Gotham? I have some more "generalizations based on nothing" to share with you.
I mean how else am I going to spend my time here in "preacher school"?

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Jesus was Black, and smoked pot.

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As usual, goth has nothing substantial to contribute to the discussion.

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Smartpenguin, who is studying the bible in a seminary (right) is so CLEARLY unqualified, as opposed to Gotham, who arguably is told what the Bible says each Sunday by a minister with an agenda.

and that's why Christians have to take back the religion from these wackos. Sing it sister!

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Updated On: 5/19/05 at 02:26 PM

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