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#26

re: Disney has lost the magic.

the formula seemed to be working out well for Disney. i believe in reinvention and change, but maybe some things are better left untampered with.

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

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#27

re: Disney has lost the magic.

Pocahantas followed the formula, too, I think. Right down to the semi-coherent companion animals. :) But I think that by then the stencil was showing too much. And Eisner was losing his touch.
#28

re: Disney has lost the magic.

The best part of those older Disney movies are the music. Sure, the stories are fine, but they're just stories being retold by Disney, when they were originally Hans Christina Andersen or the Brothers Grimm. The music is what made them special!!

And I agree with Elphaba the Good- Hilary Duff and Raven Symone are terrible. Hilary more than Raven, but they're both pretty bad. The Disney Channel lately is all stupid real life shows about stupid things, with stupid titles like "That's So Raven". "Lizzie McGuire" is horrible. Disney need some new material.
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#29

re: Disney has lost the magic.

it seems that disney made the mistake of abandoning their old approach and mission and instead redirecting all of their energy toward being more like the WB channel.

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

#30

re: Disney has lost the magic.

>> it seems that disney made the mistake of abandoning their old approach and mission and instead redirecting all of their energy toward being more like the WB channel.

In many respects, their hand was forced: the old formula of talking animals and rewrites of European fairy tales seemed old fashioned, not "relevant" to a generation raised on computer games and rave parties. Problem was, Disney didn't know how to make the transition, so it started looking at third party support, like Pixar, to keep the cash going while it stumbled along trying to find a way. In the beginning, Pixar needed Disney as much as Disney needed them, so the relationship was good all around -- but then Pixar became successful on its own terms, and suddenly Disney was stuck again.

It seems that Disney wants to move to more and more "made in the USA" material, both in source and execution. That's fine, but it has to be good material choices. And that's where someone somewhere at WDS is seriously dropping the ball. Hilary Duff? Again, a grab for some quick cash, nothing more. They would have dropped her if she hadn't taken a walk. Lizzie McGuire? Same thing. But right now, there's nothing in the works with "legs", as they say, and that doesn't bode well for the Mouse.
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#31

re: Disney has lost the magic.

The Disney Channel live action shows have always been awful, haven't they? I didn't have Disney Channel as a kid, but I don't remember anything particularly great coming out of it. I was a Nickelodeon kid. :)
#32

re: Disney has lost the magic.

The only things on the Disney chanell that I EVER Liked were The New Mickey Mouse Club when I was younger (I think I knew I was gay then too -- and watching this proved it), as well as the reruns of the original Mickey Mouse Club and Zorro TV series
#33

re: Disney has lost the magic.

Sorry, but any scene in Around the World in 80 Days is far more brilliant than any complete live-action Disney film during the flood of films in the late-60s to late-70s. There were a couple of standouts, but most of them were just bubble-headed slapstick atrocities with horrible production values. But the target audience (6-12 year-olds) love them. They were never intended for adults, so why bitch about Hilary Duff or Raven? Unless you're under 13, Disney probably doesn't care too much how you feel about them. The live-action teen flicks are created for a very limited audience, while the animated and adventure flicks are more family-oriented.

I will say that they're remake of Freaky Friday was brilliant and surpassed the original.
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#34

re: Disney has lost the magic.

I cant stand Hilary Duff but I will say that I think "Thats So Raven" is a funny show. She should stick to comedy and not sing and Hilary Duff should just retire from show business.

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