Does the GOP even read the Constitution?
Does the GOP even read the Constitution?
Does the GOP even read the Constitution?#1
Posted: 2/4/10 at 9:14am
This week, the GOP chose Susan Collins, Senator from Maine, to give their weekly address. It's about as patently false and misleading as it could possibly be, both on the facts of the event in question (the xmas bombing attempt) as well as the Constitution. Something that needs to point out to the GOP and the vast majority of the media: the Constitution applies to EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTY, NOT JUST CITIZENS. Its words are chosen very carefully, and in almost every case, the word 'person' is used. There are some instances where 'citizen' is used, but not when talking about rights. Think about it. If the Constitution didn't apply to all, we could enslave foreigners and incarcerate tourists without trial.
In addition to being wrong on the Constitution, she gets the facts of the case wrong. The suspect, despite being Mirandized several times and having legal representation, is cooperating and providing intelligence.
Every word is false
Does the GOP even read the Constitution?#2
Posted: 2/4/10 at 9:27amNo they don't read period. They don't even read bills they vote on. They are only interested in rewriting the Constitution to deny groups of people their rights.
Does the GOP even read the Constitution?#2
Posted: 2/4/10 at 9:39amConstitution? There's a Constitution?
Does the GOP even read the Constitution?#3
Posted: 2/4/10 at 9:42am
"Constitution? There's a Constitution?"
Apparently, only when it's convenient.
you mess with america, you get the pliers#4
Posted: 2/4/10 at 10:16ameh, he'd be talking more if we'da ripped out his fingernails one by one and it'da been more fun than this unseemly pas de deux with him and his lawyer. plus it'd let them f***ers know that if they f*** with america we're gonna hurt them like they never been hurt before and then bomb their villages, rape their goats and pee on their korans.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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you mess with america, you get the pliers#6
Posted: 2/4/10 at 10:27amgoats are inherently evil. why do you think they are always associated with satan???? evil, pure and simple. besides, many of the goats i spoke to said they like it a little rough.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
you mess with america, you get the pliers#7
Posted: 2/4/10 at 10:44am
Torture is much more about vengeance than information gathering.
I wonder if some of those who support torture were picked on as children...
Even more ironic, the shoe bomber was immediately mirandized, and the Bush DOJ supported the exact path Obama is following.
For the junk bomber, his family is urging him to cooperate, and he is. Specifically because they believe in the US court system.
Collins looks like a moron... but what else is new.
Updated On: 2/4/10 at 10:44 AM
you mess with america, you get the pliers#8
Posted: 2/4/10 at 10:46ami call for ywiw to be waterboarded. naked. we'll get to the, uh, bottom of this.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
you mess with america, you get the pliers#9
Posted: 2/4/10 at 10:54am
Trust me, you really don't want to see that.
But, if waterboarding means downing a few Sapphires' on the rocks with a martini olive, it would work.
you mess with america, you get the pliers#10
Posted: 2/4/10 at 11:07am
Let's see, the Democrats are trying to pass a bill that forces everyone to buy health insurance or go to jail.
(Gothampc frantically searches his copy of the Constitution).
Can someone please point out to me where the Constitution says that the government has the right to force people to buy government sponsored health insurance?
you mess with america, you get the pliers#11
Posted: 2/4/10 at 11:17amIt's right there where it says we can't let gay people serve in the military.
you mess with america, you get the pliers#12
Posted: 2/4/10 at 11:19amroscoe, you get in line for your waterboarding. don't make me use the cattleprod!
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
you mess with america, you get the pliers#13
Posted: 2/4/10 at 12:15pm
"Let's see, the Democrats are trying to pass a bill that forces everyone to buy health insurance or go to jail.
(Gothampc frantically searches his copy of the Constitution).
Can someone please point out to me where the Constitution says that the government has the right to force people to buy government sponsored health insurance?"
I don't think any version of any bill sends anyone to jail, though I could be wrong. I think there would be a fine, sort of like driving a car without insurance.
The Constitution grants the legislature to write laws; the judicial branch could determine if a law is unconstitutional. Since I haven't seen any state-level auto insurance law be declared unconstitutional, I doubt a healthcare bill would, though with SCOTUS, who knows?
you mess with america, you get the pliers#14
Posted: 2/4/10 at 12:21pm
"I don't think any version of any bill sends anyone to jail, though I could be wrong."
“The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years,” House Republicans said in a statement Friday.
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you mess with america, you get the pliers#15
Posted: 2/4/10 at 12:25pmHmm...I agree that the current Health Care Reform bill SUCKS. But I'd have to research that myself first...these are the same people who told us there would be death panels.
you mess with america, you get the pliers#16
Posted: 2/4/10 at 12:26pm
Madbrian--that's the issue of the "madates" without a public option.
Under both the Senate bill, the mandate is still there--a fine and a jail term if you fail to purchase insurance. A public option would have given those people an affordable option.
Obama beat up Hillary during the primary debates because her plan had mandates without. Now this plan has those same mandates without the public option.
It's not good Democratic politics.
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you mess with america, you get the pliers#17
Posted: 2/4/10 at 12:26pmYes yes yes the same House Republicans who said there would be "Death Panels" who decide when your time is up said that. Your point?
you mess with america, you get the pliers#18
Posted: 2/4/10 at 12:41pmPal, is Obama's attack on Hillary over the mandates an example of good hypocrisy?
you mess with america, you get the pliers#19
Posted: 2/4/10 at 12:51pm
Hmmm...so, if we send someone to jail for failing to purchase healthcare, then they get free healthcare in jail???
I'm an advocate of a strong public option, and I agree that a mandate without one weakens any plan.
you mess with america, you get the pliers#20
Posted: 2/4/10 at 8:53pmOh, hon. That's like asking if mainstream economists actually read Adam Smith. (Especially The Theory of Moral Sentiments.)
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