Edwards Sex Cost Hillary the Nomination

[Gothampc]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:56am

Sen. Hillary Clinton would be the Democratic presidential nominee if John Edwards had been caught in his lie about an extramarital affair and forced out of the race last year, insists a top Clinton campaign aide, making a charge that could exacerbate previously existing tensions between the camps of Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama.

"I believe we would have won Iowa, and Clinton today would therefore have been the nominee," former Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson told ABCNews.com.


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[romantico]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:08am

Considering we have heard for weeks that she would not be his VP choice. this is just more gossip and rumors and speculation based on here say. Goth, you really are giving Perez Hilton and Matt Drudge a run for their money today!

[Gothampc]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:14am

"former Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson"

Wasn't me that put forth this idea. Someone very close to Hillary said it.

[romantico]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:16am

Someone very close to Hillary always has something to say. I read the article and rolled my eyes. This really is stretching it.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:20am

Two words:


Puh Lese.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:22am

What a sad, sorry and pathetic excuse coming from a Clinton aide. THEY lost the primary for Clinton not because of John Edward's timing. First of all Iowa did not make or break the primary season nor is there any assurance Edward's votes would have gone to Clinton. Obama would have still walked away from Iowa with a solid open.

If it hasn't become VERY clear yet to Clinton supporters her campaign staff was made up of a bunch of out-of-touch blame game hacks. She is better than this bs.

Updated On: 8/11/08 at 11:22 AM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:45am

This is what my grandmother would have said to Howard Wolfson:

"Az! Az! Az! Az mein Bubbe gehat Baytsim, volt sie given mein ZAYDE!"

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:57am

At least we can rest assured that when Obama loses no one will blame Hillary!


(jk! Of course they will)

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:03pm

And when (if) he wins most of the supporters on this board will say it's on Clinton's behalf. I will give her credit for one thing though, she made him even more popular.

You can discredit the man all you want but if the election were held today Obama would win. That's without a running mate and if the electoral college polling is fairly accurate.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:09pm

Yeah, except the election ISN'T today.

[Namaste]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:37pm

The real election already happened behind closed doors.

The black guy is the new patsy.

[javero]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:47pm

One of the reasons I was hoping Hillary would not emerge as the Dem nominee was the presence of Libertarian top dog Bob Barr in the hunt. Barr's polling at 6% nationwide (and in double digits in some districts) per Zogby which is huge for a 3rd party candidate. Barr's chipping away at McCain's shaky base as many pundits predicted, especially in the Old South.

Some of you will recall that Barr lead the charge for Bill Clinton's impeachment. Hillary at the top of the ticket would have guaranteed the another peep at Monicagate and Hillary's handling of it. Hopefully Obama can keep his nose clean from now till the election.

Bill Richardson is starting to look more like a viable VEEP with each passing day. He should be the friggin' party nominee but...

Edwards was a political carcass from 04. I was down in NC this past weekend. Most of the natives that I'm acquainted with didn't take him seriously in 04 or now.

Obama needs to pick a running mate soon one who can help the Dems secure a couple of swing states and flip a red state for insurance.

Minority opinion: Hillary (thanks largely to Bill) still is a drag down-ticket. Why give the Repubs a stick with which to beat you?

Updated On: 8/11/08 at 12:47 PM

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:59pm

"Bill Richardson is starting to look more like a viable VEEP with each passing day. He should be the friggin' party nominee but... "

He should be - he really should be.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 1:14pm

I only like Bill's stance on the war which is why I don't think he is a match for Obama. If this man were white he might actually be president. He is quite possibly the ideal blue-collar Democrat.

I'm also not sure what the vetting process turned up on this guy. Speaking of Richardson remember when that idiot James Carville called him Judas for endorsing Obama? The same nonsense this article tries to spread.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 1:26pm

It'll be Hillary.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 1:50pm

I'm hoping it is, but mostly for historical reasons. He will win either way.

I do believe it is really all up to her to decide. I don't think Obama has much of a say in the matter if she wants it. I just hope she isn't eying 2012 it's just not a logical path. This is her decision.

And in defense of the ****ty now democratically biased MSM. I don't blame them or deny their blatant Clinton/Obama bias. After years of political pressure from the Bush admin they are ready to explode and getting these two elected will change how they do business for the better.

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 1:55pm

"He will win either way."

Don't be so sure. Never underestimate the extreme stupidity of the "American Public".

[romantico]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 1:58pm

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 4:22pm

I absolutely agree that if Edwards hadn't be in the running, Hillary could have won Iowa and possibly other states where he and Hillary split votes.

But it's all woulda coulda shoulda and there's no use rehashing all of the primary nonsense.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 4:23pm

With the way she managed her campaign, she still probably would have found a way to blow it.

Would of, should of, could of ... Didn't.

[Juliash]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 5:04pm

HONESTLY.Who cares? It happened the way it happened and its done. I feel like the people around Hillary just need to be quiet and focus on running a better campaign next time.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 5:07pm

More news from the "waaaah, this is unfair!" Clinton aides: They are now speculating on the utter outrage that had Barack Obama not run this year Hillary would have unequivocally won the nomination.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 5:12pm

"They are now speculating on the utter outrage that had Barack Obama not run this year Hillary would have unequivocally won the nomination."

It ain't over yet. I can guarantee Hillary's working the phones and calling the superdelegates.

Do you think it's a coincidence that the National Enquirer (owned by a Clinton supporter) releases a story about John Edwards in the same month as the convention?

Hillary's gonna stage a revolt.

[romantico]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 5:18pm

Which is it Goth?

First, you say the Edwards scandal ruined Hillary's chances of becoming VP.

NOW, you are hinting that the Enquirer, which is owned by a 'so called 'Clinton supporter ran the Edwards story as a favor to Hillary?

Well which is it?

[Gothampc]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 5:24pm

"First, you say the Edwards scandal ruined Hillary's chances of becoming VP."

I never said that. I linked to an article that said that. I'm not Howard Wolfson.

Here's what I think happened. Hillary was going to use the NE story to destroy Edwards, but then he announced his wife had cancer so Hillary had to back off. Then when she didn't get the nomination, but saw Edwards cozy up to Obama and a possible VP nod, she decided to go with the story.