Exactly How Bad Is It For Obama?

[romantico]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 3:23pm

As a Hillary supporter, I think Obama is taking a lot of heat for this Rev.Wright uproar. I don't think this should end his run for President, but I have heard from people here and some local talk radio that its all over for him. I am more against Obama's rabid supporters than him but would hate to see this end it all for him. I heard this morning if he looses IN and NC he will more than likely drop out. HUH?

I think Obama should have denounced this guy a month or so ago and do believe he waited too long, but does anyone think he can smooth this over?

So, I am asking an honest question here. Exactly how bad is it for Obama and is there a chance he can bounce back from all of this? Why would Rev. Wright blow the chance of a man becoming the first African American President? It sounds to me like it goes against everything Rev.Wright stands for. Why hasn't Sharpton or Jesse Jackson spoke out about this? Has someone 'convinced' Rev. Wright to speak out now? Any thoughts?

Updated On: 4/30/08 at 03:23 PM

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 3:25pm

We won't know until the polls come out. And when the media finally gets tired of this "story".

[Auggie27]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 3:29pm

I think it's very bad, for all the reasons voiced in several other threads by many at this board. Though it's played out as a 24 hour news cycle item, don't kid yourself. This story has an enormous impact on the up and coming voters with any reservations. Even minor ones. Doesn't matter if they "should" be fretting about this, or if it's unfair, or even overplayed by media. It is more than a news story now. It's part of the Obama mythology, and will not disappear because of one speech. This is politics. It's not show biz. And it's highest stakes politics -- the presidency. I don't know anyone -- including my fellow Obama supporting friends -- who thinks this matter will wind down. No, I don't think he'll drop out. But watch for the month of May to be even more drama-filled.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 3:56pm

tuesday will determine just how bad it is. then he's got two weeks to turn it around and head in looking strong instead of like one of dr. yacub's failed experiments.

either weay he doesn't drop out. no way. under no circumstances does he drop out. none. i don't care if three women show up at his press conference holding babies and screaming, "bammy's my baby daddy." he's not dropping out.

this goes to the convention because unless he blows her doors off the rest of the way, she's going to show up to meet with the supes in blackface sporting a dashiki. even if he wins convincingly the rest of the way she doesn't drop out.

unless they promise to throw the election so she can run free in '12.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 4:02pm

If he loses in North Carolina, the world changes.

Other than that, Dean and Brazile will try to get the supers to back Obama--if they get to 2025 (the number minus Michigan and Florida), they will declare him the winner. (The number is 2208 counting FL and MI.)

Up until such time as they get 2025, the thing is still up in the air, with more revelations about Obama to come.

But if Hillary takes North Carolina, she wins.

[Auggie27]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 6:04pm

One crisis has a direct impact on the need for a solution to another. The Florida/Michigan omissions will become very front burner if the elections are merely close in Indiana and NC. I think if the win in NC narrows to below double digits, it's a serious turn for him, especially if coupled with a Clinton win in Indiana. Two wins for her put the entire primary in another place.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 6:06pm

You won't have Barack Obama to kick around anymore!!

Even if he loses this election, it's not the end. He young. He can make a Nixon comeback.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 7:30pm

Considering the front page of the LA Times is running a story that says "Barack Obama angrily disownws his former pastor and friend or 20 years, the Rev. Jeramiah A. Wright Jr., saying Tuesday that Wright's comments about race, religion and the US government were "divisive and destructive"..."

Nice to know Obama will throw a 20 year old friend under the train to get what he wants.

As I've always thought, he's saying WHATEVER he needs to say to get elected.

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 7:33pm

Updated On: 1/23/09 at 07:33 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 7:38pm

CNN was mostly in denial today. It should be called ONN. And Cafferty Files should def be Obama Files.

[Namaste]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 7:46pm

Well, if my neighborhood were the only folks voting now until May 6, it seems Clinton would win 10 to 1. I counted today while driving and for about every 10 Clinton signs/stickers I saw, I'd see 1 for Obama.

I haven't seen ANY McCain signs/stickers. Too bad my little village isn't a true representative of the entire state.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 7:52pm

It "might could," as they say in Carolina.

It might could...

Updated On: 4/30/08 at 07:52 PM

[Namaste]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 7:58pm

I reckon y'all are right.

[romantico]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 8:05pm

Gee, I wish the Edwards would support Hillary before next week.That would REALLY help her.

[Namaste]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 8:07pm

He ort to.

(That's the North Carolina version for "ought")

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 8:51pm

That would be right sweet of them now, wouldn't it? Right sweet.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 9:02pm

"I opened this thread twice and both times there was an Obama ad at the bottom. That's all. Just an interesting coincidence."

I have an ad asking, "Who should be our next President?" with a smiling, scholarly looking Obama, and an extreme close-up of Clinton with an expression that makes her look like someone who belongs in the looney bin.

[Mamie]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 9:04pm

CNN poll posted at 6:05 -

"Obama's lead is now down to 1 point over Clinton nationwide, 45 percent to 44 percent, in CNN's "poll of polls." That margin is down 3 points from another CNN poll of polls conducted two days ago. In that analysis, Obama led Clinton 47 percent to 43 percent. The margin is also considerably lower than an April 18 poll of polls that showed Obama with an 11 point lead.

The poll of polls consists of three newly released national polls from Fox News/Opinion Dynamics, Gallup, and Newsweek. There is no margin of error on the poll of polls.

Both the Fox News poll and the Gallup poll were conducted partially after Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, made a fresh round of controversial comments earlier this week.

The Fox News poll also appears to show Obama no longer has an edge over Clinton among independent voters. In head-to-head match ups, presumptive Republican nominee John McCain wins independents by a 4 point margin over Clinton (42-38 percent) and by a 10 points over Obama (47 percent to 37 percent)"

[Mamie]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 9:08pm

My personal take on the Wright business isn't any kind of shock over anything Wright or Obama have said over the last week. From what I hear, Wright has not been delivering a new message. This is something he's been preaching for many, many years. And this is the man that Obama has been following and admiring for all those years. Enough said.

[BroadwayEnthusiast2]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 9:14pm

New York Times: Primary Loss and Furor Over Ex-Pastor Hurt Obama in Poll

[winston89]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 10:35pm

What I still don't get is that the media and people in general are talking about the Rev Wright situation. Yet, no one has mentioned that McCain's top aid is the biggest raciest you can find.

[Namaste]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 10:39pm

Well, McCain is a scum-suckin' piece of you know what, bless his heart.

[NYadgal]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 10:39pm

I think there's some dirty politics involved.

But, that's a bit of a redundant thought, isn't it.

[xoangel2789xo]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 11:48pm

I feel like its too late. But that's just me.

[Luscious]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 11:57pm

My prediction is that Obama is going to win both Indiana and North Carolina and by a fairly sizable margin. It's all but over for Hillary. People are tired of politics as usual; especially dirty politics. She's done everything to try to discredit this man, and he hasn't done or said one thing that I can think of to try to discredit her. Her politics stink. They’re as old and tired as John McCain. I don't care what the polls say. (And neither do any of you when they’re not saying what you want to hear.) Next Tuesday will be here soon enough, and Hillary's days are shortly numbered. I want a President that carries him or her self with dignity and grace and doesn't sink to the depths of their opponents level by pulling out the 9/11 card or by trying to instill fear in the American people. We've had eight friggin' years of it, and enough is enough!

Updated On: 5/1/08 at 11:57 PM