Favorite Alice Adaptation?
Posted: 12/28/11 at 2:19pm
It never seems to work with live actors. Each one grandstands too much, and directors tend to revel in each of the cameos. You end up with a sluggish, indulgent mess that is completely void of wit or whimsy.
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Posted: 12/28/11 at 2:34pm
I do love the Mad Tea Party. The funny and oddly frightening scene where the timepiece threatens to explode, prompting the Jerry Colonna's March Hare to start screaming "MAD WATCH! MAD WATCH!" is one of the great anarchic pleasures of Disney animation.
I'll only mention Burton's disgraceful film because it had a very very cool Cheshire Cat.
Posted: 12/28/11 at 4:40pm
I hated the Burton version which was nothing more than another addition to his personal collection of Johnny Depp porn.
Posted: 12/28/11 at 7:54pm
The Disney 1951 version - A very good introduction of this story for younger children. I also loved the voice cast and the animation and songs were terrific.
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1972 film) - I really enjoyed the acting in it, especially Fiona Fullerton (Alice), Michael Crawford (White Rabbit), and Flora Robson (Queen of Hearts)
The 1999 TV adaptation with Tina Majorino - It was a very creative and accurate adaptation of the story. Talented cast as well as excellent sets and costumes.
Updated On: 12/29/11 at 07:54 PM
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"Drink Me!"
Posted: 12/29/11 at 12:18am
Alice in the Palace
Posted: 12/29/11 at 12:38am
Yes it was.
Posted: 12/29/11 at 2:53am
But... being a big Alice geek as a kid, I really love the Disney version too. I guess it is different in tone to the novels--there's no sense of any of the slower scenes on a golden afternoon, despite the song, etc, but as a film it's always been a favorite of mine, and it seems people have liked it more with time. Back in the 80s as a kid it was likewise one of the first Disney films you could always find on VHS and I watched it so much that I think I could still hum the entire background score (the Alice in Wonderland dark ride at Disneyland is also a must for me even if I've had friends balk at the idea of riding in those caterpillars...)
Much harder to defend but I also have a nostalgic soft spot for that "all star" Irwin Allen miniseries version--I must have been five when it aired but I remember what an event it felt like and I can probably sing most of the Steve Allen songs (of course it's hard to beat Carol Channing's Jam Tomorrow). Adding the Jaberwocky as a villain and not just a poem drove me crazy even as a kid, but it seems like a lot of adapter feel the need to give Alice some sort of story drive like that (I know even Disney contemplated using him as a character).
Which of course was IMHO disastrously handled in the awful Tim Burton version if you can even call it an adaptation, To turn it into some sort of quest fantasy just made no sense to me and I think it's a mess of a film (more annoying is how many people I know who somehow believe it's a faithful adaptation--to be fair Burton never claimed it was).
I've seen a number of others but not for a long time. I used to love the PBS filming of the stage version as a kid as well, but barely remember it (except that there was some behind the scenes thing where you saw one of the actresses smoking which shocked me as a kid who thought smoking was very bad indeed). And I've seen the 30s all star version which is slow but has great designs and some fun performances. I also remember a British version with songs and music inspired by Indian music (?) and the creepy stop motion one by Jan Svankmajer (as well as kinda Alice related, Dreamchild which I found interesting but flawed especially when it tried to be based on reality). It does seem to be one of those stories that's very hard to adapt to the screen, but people find hard to resist.
Oh and of course there's the brilliant Betty Boop in Blunderland! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyErX_ZDO4
(I won't admit to seeing the horribly weird 70s musical porn version.... *ahem*)
Posted: 12/29/11 at 2:57am
I know the PBS version I mentioned earlier was filmed of the 80s revival with Nathan Lane of the old 30s stage hit, which was also the basis for the 30s film.
Posted: 12/29/11 at 3:12am
Posted: 12/29/11 at 3:48am
Alice at the Palace is a lot of fun--didn't realize it was by the composer of Runaways, Doonesbury, etc.
Posted: 12/29/11 at 4:23am
Alice in the Palace is available in its entirety on youtube, I think, and well worth the watch. Mark Linn-Baker has a fascinating physical sequence where he portrays an old man, as Streep sings a song describing him. He's also an hysterical Mock turtle. Jeter, well, he's Jeter. It's quirky as hell, but such a great cast.
Posted: 12/29/11 at 4:30am
Betty in Blunderland was on the first cheap public domain Betty video I bought as a kid when I got really into Fleischer, so I always thought it was fairly common. It's really a shame there *still* isn't a really decent Boop collection on DVD.
Posted: 12/29/11 at 9:36am
Posted: 12/29/11 at 10:54am
Interestingly enough it was directed by Vinnette Carroll who went on to direct another Black Alice on Broadway in 1979 called "But Never Jam Today." Cleavant Derricks played Tweedledee (among other parts) in both versions. The songs in "But Never Jam Today" are tons of fun and I would love to see the MUFTIs take on both scores in an Alice-themed series.
Posted: 12/29/11 at 12:05pm
Excerpt from ALICE
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Posted: 12/29/11 at 1:46pm

Gotta admit that I've always had a fondness for the Tom Petty video for "Don't Come Around Here No More."
One of my favorite music videos! I was obsessed with it when it first aired. The final scene is what creeps me out the most.
Don't Come Around Here No More
Posted: 12/29/11 at 1:50pm
I will admit the '99 version with Tina Majorino is pretty accurate - its one of few versions to depict Alice with a yellow dress, which I think was the original color intended for Alice (I think it's in Through The Looking Glass where the blue dress appeared). But moreover than that, it's very accurate to the book other than the few parts that borrow from Through The Looking Glass (The Tweedle's, White Knight) and the whole plotline of Alice learning how to sing and people from real life doubling as characters from Wonderland.
My problem with a lot of adaptations out there (including the recent Tim Burton travesty, and the recent musical Wonderland) is that they try to make Alice in Wonderland have a moral value that simply isn't there. A lot of adaptations that are family-oriented and aimed towards children have tried to illustrate themes about conquering fears/growing up etc that I don't think Lewis Carroll intended while writing those books. Granted, there ARE themes of maturation and growing up specifically in Through The Looking Glass, but in my opinion, the books are a commentary on the ridiculousness hierarchy of Victorian society, and to an extent, the idea of Victorian literature of having a "moral". To those who have read the books, they're quite absurdist in nature.
Posted: 12/29/11 at 1:58pm
Posted: 12/29/11 at 8:07pm
That's something I forgot to mention in my original post. It was a very accurate adaptation of the story.
Posted: 12/29/11 at 8:14pm
I only kinda remember the Tina Majorino version--at the time I thought it wasn't too accurate but I probably judged it unfairly (although the colour of Alice's dress never bothered me much). Its director Nick Willing has now made a career of doing those Sci Fi TV miniseries based very loosely on Children's classics--so far he's done Neverland, Tin Man and... Alice as well. Though all I remember from it is Kathy Bates played someone based on the Queen of Hearts I believe.
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