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#1

Golden Globe Presenters

Did anyone else find it insanely humorous that so many of these "actors" are unable to read a teleprompt without sounding like automatons? Chrstina Ricci really stuck out in my mind. I think it really illustrated the vast difference between those actors with careers that began in film oandthose with stage credits. Most of them looked like they needed hours of rehearsals, imported bottled water, motivation pep-talks, and several takes before they could handle spitting out a paragraph with any nuance of meaning.
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Or maybe they should stop making these presenters read such tightly-scripted material and persue idiodic banter that always comes off as unfunny. Also, it wouldn't hurt some of them to show up for rehearsal.
Classic case: Danny Devito and Sharon Stone. Both spoke in honor of Michal Douglas. She did fine and he looked stupid.

I also find it completely classless when the winners start to read the "Wrap it up" warning on the teleprompter. I know they're nervous, but have some dignity. Collect your thoughts and end the thank yous.
I thought Diane Keaton (as strange as she is) did a great job. She clearly prepared her speech, read it, and then thanked only a hand full of people...rather than her dog, and third cousin once removed.

Another thing that I found irritating were the "Umms" that followed every other word in the thank you speeches. Clearly movie actors...not stage actors. Renee Zelwegger was a big offender with that one. Don't they realize they could fit in more thank yous if they left out the umms? re: re: Golden Globe Presenters
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Updated On: 1/26/04 at 02:57 PM

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Actually I like to think of winners at awards shows as 'nervous people.' It's not like they're actually performing at these shows. It's not like Al Pacino, a finely trained stage actor, blew us away with his eloquence when he spoke.

Acting isn't public speaking. Lots of people are good at one and not the other.

And it's Zellweger. Not Zelwegger.

Updated On: 1/26/04 at 03:04 PM

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But Ms. Streep is most wonderful on the fly! We could all learn a great deal from her...about a great many things!
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I can forgive a flustered winner who's nervous and excited not knowing whether they will be making a specch or not. Especially those not expecting to win. But have none of these presenters had any training in a cold reading? Even if the writing is poor, a good actor should have the training to interpret phrasing and intention rather than stringing a bunch of sentences together in a flat monotone like a text-voice computer program.
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Really, are theater fans this sad? Are we so desperate to 'prove' the artistic superiority of the stage that we have nothing better to do than nitpick how barely rehearsed presenters at awards shows do compared to well-rehearsed stage performers? Are the presenters at The Tonys SO eloquent comparitively? Is this the only thing that theater can hold over film or TVs head? "Well, OUR actors that no one in America has ever heard of can cold read a speech more effectively." Whoop-de-friggin-do.

To be completely truthful, the MOST comfortable people at these shows are people like Jim Carrey, Robin Williams and Bill Murray who came out of stand-up and improv comedy -- NOT legitimate stage at all. Should we then decide that they are in fact the MOST sophisticated of performers because they can wing an award presentation better than others who are trying to stay on a script that is a) awful, b) they've only seen once and c) don't especially care about in the first place??

Talk about a non-issue.

I mean, technically, I know actors who do a lot of commercials and industrials who could probably take the speech cold from an ear feed and put it out there perfectly but I don't think that proves the fine talents of all the industrial actors out there compared to those sloths in film. It means less than nothing. Sort of like the Tony Awards.

Updated On: 1/26/04 at 04:25 PM

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Uh....This is the Off-Topic board. The same place where people post questions based on undergarments and the penises within. I really don't know why you're being so judgemental.

In no way am I trying to prove artistic seniority of the stage actor to the film. I noticed a difference between the presenters (not recipients) of those with legitimate theatre training and those with film training. While I enjoy watching the awards, it's difficult enough to sit through 3 hours of commercial interruptions after each award, but also the vapid dronings of those who get accolades from critics and fans cannot read one sentence with an iota of charisma or intelligence. Some did better than others, which made it all the more noticable. Personally, I thought Jim Carrey was one of the worst. He definitely tried to be funny, but his jokes landed flat, whereas Robin Williams actually was funny and incidentally, has a background in theatre (trained at Julliard).

I never implied is what the ONLY thing that theatre can hold over film or television, nor did I say they were the most sophisticated. I was speaking specifically about what I was watching last night. One isolated incident. Had any of the presenters last night worked heavily in industrials and audio or visual prompting, then I'm sure it showed in those that handled the material well.

Comfort should never be an issue. Another sign of a good actor. 90% of the time, an actor is never comfortable when performing, especially in film. The point is moot. I bet Jack Nicholson was much more comfortable than any of the stand-up comedians. He can win or lose and it really doesn't matter to him. He didn't have to present and he probably assumed he wouldn't have to give a speech (though I'm sure he could improvise in a pinch without batting an eye). He'll just be Jack and he'll always have millions and he'll always have work if he wants it.

PS - The Tony presenters are usually much better prepared than what was on the Golden Globes last night. But considering you find it a non-issue, then I'm sure you've never noticed. I never asked whether you personally found it to be an important issue or not. I simply asked if anyone else made the same obsevation as myself. I'm not sad at all. Just attentive.
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I think Mister Matt has a point and commented on the same thing while watching last night. If you are a presenter, isn't that just another acting gig of sorts? Why is it that a person capable of memorizing dozens, maybe even hundreds, of pages of script---FOR A LIVING--- can't commit a short blurb to memory at an awards show? I don't really care that much one way or another, but I think it's a valid question.
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