Hamas IS Isis and Isis IS Hamas! — Page 3

" they make it very clear that their sole purpose is to wipe out the infidels and propagate their belief system (Islam) throughout the entire world; thus, religion is the root of the violence because they are using it as the catalyst or the justification. "


THIS. As simple as that. They are using religion as their launching pad. As their badge to do what they do.

Updated On: 8/28/14 at 03:07 PM

You can defend the religion of Islam all you'd like, but to suggest it's not the reasoning for the violence by these terrorist organizations is irresponsible, naive, and ignorant.

And that is not what I said or suggested.

...because they are using it as the catalyst or the justification.

That is almost what I said. But to be more accurate, "they are using THEIR INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM as the catalyst or the justification". It's not the same thing as identifying the religion as the root of the problem. It is the individual's (or group's) interpretation of the religion that is the root of the problem. I can't make myself any clearer or simpler and I'm not repeating it again.

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That is almost what I said. But to be more accurate, "they are using THEIR INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM as the catalyst or the justification"

Mister Matt--may I suggest a word change? How about "they are using their BASTARDIZATION of Islam as the catalyst or the justification..."?

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As simple as that.

If you learn one thing and only one thing about the Middle East and Islam, let it be this:

Nothing is as simple as that.

If you say that and nothing more, you will sound more knowledgeable and intelligent about Islam than anyone you encounter in American media or academia.

Nothing is as simple as that.

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I wonder what draws American citizens to go over there and join Isis. Do you think it's Islam?
I think it would be much more interesting and effective to address the conditions that draw people to terrorism, things like poverty and oppression, instead of blaming it on one religion. Which is silly anyway since the vast majority of Muslims do not support terrorism.

"Ugh. Can we just stop with the moral relativism?"

That isn't the point. It isn't about which religion is worse. It's about being a student of history and seeing that terrorist acts have been committed in the name of ALL religions since the beginning of time. So to focus on one as being the root cause of terrorism is pointless and a waste of time.

Don't you use my argument!

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Either you didn't see it or you are being a ass.

I read the entire article. I don't believe it actually supports either or both points you may be trying to make. At any rate, I'm sure you can find more exploitation on the religion if you look in the right places. The connection between the army known as the Islamic State and Islam really isn't a huge ambiguity being swept under the rug. Right wingers have been running with the bastardization of Islam by extremists for over a decade. If nobody knows about the ISIS connection to Islam and how they choose to manipulate their religion for violence and power (which sounds oddly familiar to Americans, but I've already been chastised for making the obvious comparison), it's certainly not the fault of "the media".

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Here, I'll further cut-and-paste from your editorial/quote hybrid cut-and-paste and use bold as well:

interpretation
its interpretations
it believes
it calls
its own caliphate

Though I'm sure the actual contents of this article could not be considered "the media".

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I thought you were done with this?

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Care to elaborate?

What part is unclear to you? Or is that all and you are done with this? Again.

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How many more beheading must we endure in the name of Islam?
Brutal Truth

But who said anything about not knowing the difference?