Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
#1Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 12:38pm
Says Nancy Pelosi: Hillary is the "big name" who would would "make a great vice president."
"Convention schedules can be changed."
Says PalJoey: "Politics is the art of the possible."
Pelosi keeps Hillary’s VP embers glowing
#2re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 12:40pm
I hope you're right, PalJoey. Up until that, things have been really silent here in DC about Hillary.
#4re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 12:47pmI have to be skeptical but hopeful.His chances of winning would increase and it would scare the SH*T out of the right wingers to have another Clinton in the White House.Still think its a rumor and gossip, but we will see.
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#5re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 12:55pmBut she's a homophobic bigot.
#6re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 12:57pm
"It would make Obama win!" Uh he will win either way.
I'm am certain she has been offered this slot. I hear a lot of people painting Barack as someone who wouldn't choose Clinton because of his "new politics" or because of the stupid things she's said about him. I don't see his campaign like that at all. I think what he does is very smart and strategic. I think choosing Clinton someone who he may not always agree with as NEW POLITICS. Working together is the only way our government works.
Obama has a really fantastic lead right now in the electoral college. He would win if the election was held today. The only state I think that Clinton will positively affect is Florida, though Obama's campaign has a work around for Florida.
For historical reasons I think it is both Obama and Clinton's responsibility to make this happen.
#7re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 12:58pm
Who'd a thunk that Nancy Pelosi herself would be the one to float this?
The only thing sweeter will be to see Donna Brazile's and Howard Dean's frozen smiling faces during Obama's announcement.
#8re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:02pm
"Who'd a thunk that Nancy Pelosi herself would be the one to float this?"
Nancy Pelosi says what she is told to say.
#9re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:08pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3huRVrckY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDKXuOgtKTA
#10re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:15pmUh she didn't really answer the question.
#11re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:22pmI thought she was very clear.
#12re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:23pmOver the weekend I heard on one of the political morning shows that the office for Hillary for VP shut down. They were saying that it was an indication that she would not be his choice. I peronally hope this is not true. I want her as VP.
#13re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:37pm
"I thought she was very clear."
How can she talk about being against discrimination but suggest states should be able to discriminate where gay unions are not popular?
The whole problem with her stance is that it IS NOT A STANCE. We can't have real gay marriage without federal protection and we can't have federal protection without upholding the constitution. This is CLEARLY not a state issue and she knows it.
She like most are not willing to do that. Anything other than equality is unconstitutional.
#14re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:48pm
I have no doubt that under a Hillary Clinton presidency, we would move toward full marriage equality sooner than under any conceivable Democratic or Republican candidate, Obama included.
I know she will work for us as vice president as well, expecially with a >60% Democratic Congress.
Without her, Obama would be much too beholden to anti-gay African-American religious conservatives to push for any kind of legislation, even incremental.
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#15re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:50pmI have no doubt that under a Hillary Clinton presidency, we would move toward monkeys flying out of each American's butt sooner than under any conceivable Democratic or Republican candidate, Obama included.
#16re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 1:56pm
"Without her, Obama would be much too beholden to anti-gay African-American religious conservatives to push for any kind of legislation, even incremental."
Seriously you suggesting that makes me sick. You are the same person that will stand there and defend a group like AIPAC's influence on our Democratic leadership. Not that "African-American religious conservatives" have had ANY political influence on Barrack Obama's democratic work in the senate.
It is a disgusting thing to say. Barrack Obama spoke out openly for gay rights while running for the senate. He isn't hiding anything and isn't siding with any religious group for political gain.
Updated On: 8/6/08 at 01:56 PM
#17re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 2:03pmI agree Pal Joey 100%. At least Hillary will march with us in a parade.
#19hillary back on top of obama
Posted: 8/6/08 at 2:06pm
i just love the word beholding and i cannot see it without hearing katherine hepburn saying it to jimmy stewart in the philadelphia story.
hillary as veep has the potential to finally bump bammy up out of the 2-4% lead over mac to which he has clung doggedly since the primaries. it also has the potential to energize the far right wingers who are not real enthused about mccain. it's a catch-22: pick her and you shore up any dems who were on the fence but you risk waking the slumbering vrwc. is it worth it to unite the democratic party? it would make a splash, that's for sure.
i think she gives him the most bang for his buck as veep, but would she wake the right? maybe. is it worth the risk? given the way he can't pull away, if i were on his side, i would risk it.
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#20re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 2:08pm
"I agree Pal Joey 100%. At least Hillary will march with us in a parade."
Uh where was she this year? Not that it matters she is still isn't for gay marriage. Despite having countless opportunities to do so.
Paljoey may be able to blame Obama's sucky gay record on his church but how do you explain Clinton's. She likes the gays just a enough to get their votes and hypnotize us with her pantsuits but not enough to make us equals.
#21re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 2:20pm
What parade has Obama marched in? Hillary is not ashamed to march and she even did it while not running for President.
Hillary is not the nominee and IMO, not even a runner up for VP. So, why do you want to talk about her and not Obama? Her views at this point don't mean a thing. I am more concerned with Obama than I am with Hillary.
#22re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 2:22pm
"...it would scare the SH*T out of the right wingers to have another Clinton in the White House."
It's interesting that you say that. I have found that a lot of "right-wingers" prefer Hillary to McCain!
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#23re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 2:23pm
Here she is, boys. Here she is, world. Here's Hillary Clinton at one of her many NYC Gay Pride Parades, the 2006 one.
#24re: Hillary Back to Top of Obama's VP List
Posted: 8/6/08 at 2:24pm
Like Ann Coulter? She said if McCain was the nominee she would campaign for Hillary. Never happened.
Pal Joey, that has to be photoshopped! Hillary is a homophobe or so I keep hearing.
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