I Will Never Understand Gay Republicans!

A co worker of mine and I got talking the other day about the election. He is a nice guy. He knows I am openly bisexual and that I feel very comfortable with the gay community and often call other gay people my brothers and sisters. Few months ago he told me he was gay and that only a few people know about it (no family or co workers know) So, having said that I was surprised when he told me the other day that he is a proud Republican and how he despises the Democrats. I went off on how the GOP hates gay people and asked how he could be a proud member of a party who does not have his interest at heart. This seemed to really send over the edge. He asked where I got the idea that the GOP did not like gays. He claimed that was liberal propaganda and not true. He then brought up the Log Cabin Republicans,a group he is very interested in and supports. It seemed like every word out of his mouth surprised me.

I brought up Larry Craig. He said that Senator Craig is NOT gay and the story was mostly the liberal media fishing for a story.

I brought up gay marriage and he said the GOP is right. We should not be allowed to marry.

I brought up several other examples, but he was just ranting at this point. He was very angry and defensive and even said he wished Huckabee was the front runner and not McCaine. I brought up what Huckabee wanted to do with AIDS victims back in the early 90's and he said it was taken out of context.

I discovered I was not getting anywhere with him and that he is nothing more than a self loathing gay man. Since then he has been very cold towards me and has mentioned several times he is afraid I'm gonna 'out him' because I'm a liberal and thats what I like to do with those who disagree with us. I told him I would never do that and lets not politics anymore. He's very bitter and I can tell things are not the same anymore.

I will never understand Gay Republicans.NEVER!

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Sounds she's reading the Drudge Report WAY too much.

But really, he's probably more of a product of his environment and upbringing than anything else--alot of us gays start that way. We believe what the parents, teachers and clergymen tell us, then in the real world, we slowly begin to form our own opinions.

If he's just come out, he hasn't experienced alot as a GAY MAN--give him some time and a copy of The Advocate and let Life run its course.

He's alot older than me. He's 44 years old and very religious. Why do so many gay men feel you can't be gay and religious?

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Sounds like your coworker is a self-loathing ignorant self-deluded moron. And if he did indeed say what you're telling us, tell him he's a hypocrite as well:

He asked where I got the idea that the GOP did not like gays.

I brought up gay marriage and he said the GOP is right. We should not be allowed to marry.

Practically gay-friendly! Perhaps you should ask him why he "chose" his lifestyle.

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i may be a democrat, and straight, but as much as i dont care for almost all republican points of view, one thing i hate about my own party is the way they talk about republicans like they're evil or dumb or hateful, etc.

its a different point of view. which i (and you) may not agree with, but its a different point of view!

we need to figure out how to all get along together and work together... thats what i think anyhow.

liver, i agree that it comes off that way, and that alot of republicans hate the gay community and do evil hateful things... but i dont think that means all republicans are hateful or evil... and that we cant look at it as a "different opinion"... thats what it is... it seems wrong... really wrong... but its a difference of opinion.

but isnt a democrat calling them hateful and evil the same kind of prejudice?

i'm just saying... take my mom for example. serious republican. she doesnt support gay marriage (which i do), and we disagree on it, but she has gay friends and is nto hateful towards gay people,she just doesnt agree with gay marriage...

its hard for me to grasp it... it makes me angry at times because i think everyone should be equal, but i also need to try and understand that not everyone will think like me (even tho my point of view seems painfully obvious as "the right way")... so thats how i look at it. a different opinion which i need to respect, especially if i expect them to respect me.

anyhow... just my .02...

Updated On: 2/27/08 at 11:22 AM

I'm sorry but being against gay marriage means you are FUNDAMENTALLY against full and equal rights for homosexuals. You wish us to be second class citizens. There are things that come with marriage beyond the title. There are protections and rights, benefits not afforded to homosexuals now because we can not marry, very important benefits that could mean the difference between life and death in some situations. Anyone opposed to gay marriage is opposed to homosexuals and i can't be Ok with ANYONE like that. Republicans are evil, and democratic politicians are cowards. thats the truth. I'm 23, and i'm honestly beginning to believe that i won't be full citizen of this country before my death. Hatred and Cowardice rule this country. our WONDERFUL american system is a crock of ****.

I don't think Republicans are like that at all--but they too often appeal to the lesser instincts in people: fear, prejudice and intolerance--whether it's gay marriage or the Obama-Osama nonsense or Hillary/Ann is a lesbian...maybe it's just my jaded perspective and certainly the Dems do their share of mud-slinging, but they're not the same. Which is probably why we lose so much. We--like I'm running!

Have you asked her WHY she thinks that cuban? The answer usually boils down to a matter of religion, which is fine, but it shouldn't affect public policy that discriminates against complete strangers.

If gay marriage were legalized, how would it change HER life?

There's nothing wrong with generalizing when most of the people you're talking about make the generalization true. you show me a republican that thinks gays should be alowed to marry and I'll show you 10,000 who think we shouldn't be be allowed near their children (or their pets for that matter, cause you know, slippery slope)

Updated On: 2/27/08 at 11:36 AM

i hear ya liverpool... thats why i'm a democrat! :)

There are alot of good reasons to be a republican: financial responsibility, self-reliance, low taxes--all good ideas.

I even think that if Congress wants to make gun laws, it must amend the Constitution. The 2nd Amendment is quite clear--to me at least.

But being a Republican has changed alot during MY lifetime--it now has more to do with social issues that (as I've said before) incite people to vote against their own financial interests.

And in a way, it's encouraging to think that people feel more strongly about a social issue than money--unfortunately, the social issue is usually against an already disenfranchised group (single, pregnant women) or it has no bearing on their everyday lives (gay marriage).

There are plenty of people who are Republican and socially liberal. They agree with the economic views or foreign policy views.

I imagine there are few Dems who agree 100% with their party's platform and same for GOPs.

Having said that--anyone who does not support gay marriage is not a friend of mine. We can be acquaintances or relatives. But not friends.

My friends believe that I am equal to them.

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