Jesus In India- Page 2

[tazber]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 9:53am

Listen, I know someone who's friend was there when that exchange took place and they told my friend that that Jeebus got all Tyra Banks on her.

(personally I think he was just out of pot and cranky, but who's to say?

[tommyboy]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 10:05am

"until His mother suggested it was time to reveal His abilities"

OY! these Jewish mothers!

Why couldn't she just tell him to become a dokta or a loya?

Instead ya go to schule, knock over over the tables, piss off the machers and they tell P.P to hang you up.

[madbrian]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 10:09am

Lucky for him that Mary was his mother and not Joan Crawford.

[blueroses]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 10:27am

"Jesus, bring me the axe!"

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 11:37am

Memorable moments from the biblical epic BLESSED MOTHER DEAREST:

MARY: Did you heal a leper today? DID YOU?

JESUS: Yes, Mother.

MARY: Yes, Mother WHAT?

JESUS: Yes, Holy Mary Mother of God.

MARY: When I told you to call me that, I WANTED YOU TO MEAAAAAAAAAAAN IT!

Updated On: 8/6/09 at 11:37 AM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 11:39am

Another memorable moment from BLESSED MOTHER DEAREST:

MARY: Why can't you give me the RESPECT that I'm entitled to? Why can't you treat me like I would be treated by ANY STRANGER on the Road to Cana?

JESUS: Because I am NOT one of your cult-members!

Updated On: 8/6/09 at 11:39 AM

[blueroses]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 11:54am

"I should've known you'd know where to find the goys...AND the Jews."

[tazber]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 11:54am

Jesus: Mom, where are my clean robes at?

Mom: I threw them away. Why? B/c you hung them up. I told you: NO WIRE HANGERS!!!!!!!!!!

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 11:57am

"I should've known you'd know where to find the goys...AND the Jews."

I'm at my desk at work and I can't stop laughing at this one.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 2:59pm

My goodness.

I've got you all reading scripture.

Over the cliff and back to the sea, lemmings!

Read about Ole Worm instead.
Ole Worm

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 3:08pm

I've been reading scripture since I was about seven, love. It just took me about twenty years to realize it was all BS.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 3:14pm

You're going through a phase, Phyllis.

What will the next one be?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 3:18pm

Active destruction of organized religion as opposed to my current passive phase, perhaps?

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 3:25pm

Ah, but you bring up the concept of the inner church (direct experience of spirituality) vs. the outer church (organized religion, rules, buildings, etc.), Phyllis.

I would agree with you in this, that those who focus on the organization part often lack any understanding of the other or even awareness it exists.

Have you read Elaine Pagels' works? They are pretty interesting. As far as Christianity goes. I've found various Buddhist works more helpful and explanatory in understanding spirituality and their deep knowledge actually explains some of the unexplained in other religions, including Christianity.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 3:29pm

Oy vey. Now it's not just the Gospel According to NomDePlume.

It's the GNOSTIC Gospel of NomDePlume.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 3:38pm

So nice to see you admit you were mistaken that I would have misquoted the Bible.

Always nice to see a man admit his error. And so rare.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 3:39pm

I like the (Tommy) Gnosis Gospel, myself.

Ah, but you bring up the concept of the inner church (direct experience of spirituality) vs. the outer church (organized religion, rules, buildings, etc.), Phyllis.

I hesitated using the world "organized" because the phrase "organized religion" tends to bug me. All religion is organized religion, unless you're just following a woo-woo sort of make your own "spirituality" thing, which in that case, I don't understand why people always seem to use Christianity as a template.

As for the so-called "inner church" and "outer church," I truly don't understand how one can be divorced from the other.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 4:07pm

"So nice to see you admit you were mistaken that I would have misquoted the Bible."

I don't follow. To whom was this directed?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 4:10pm

PalJoey, I believe.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 4:13pm

Oh.

When did he do either of those things?

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 4:18pm

You are referring to her Beyond Belief, I gather. A very interesting work.

Sometimes the "outer church" has prohibited or denied that the "inner chuch" can or should exist. That a person should have no direct connection in worship but only through a controlled experience through the presence of a priest, for example, as part of the outer church. That is my understanding of the difference. But I've read the inner church had to be acknowledged when the mystic nuns and monks of the Catholic church would pray and begin to levitate in their cells even during the Middle Ages and the Church just kept that very private, given the Inquisition and such. And that was the point, you can't divorce the inner church which will always exist, as it is in the nature of the humanness of existence.

Perhaps Western writers use Christianity as a familiar example rather than a template, Phyllis.

I think the shamanistic religions (as in faith or belief system) and lamaism (that preceding Buddhism) might fall out of the "organized" religion category (and therefore have in the past been seen as not being religions, which would be defined in part for their organization). The shamans/lamas have techniques which it seems would alter in approach depending on the circumstances or need, but the practitioners seem to operate as individuals (though they have apprentices) and the classic works on Shamanism say they are "called" to their role much as priests speak of their "calling."

I think you were right to hesitate on the word "organized" regarding religion as its meaning in that context can be fluid, to say the least. Updated On: 8/6/09 at 04:18 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 4:23pm

I don't think she was speaking to me. I don't think she was speaking to Phyllis either.

Maybe she was speaking to her Voices.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 4:29pm

As I say, so rare.

Pathetic when a man can't admit being wrong.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 4:35pm

Well, I'm glad that's all cleared up.

[nomdeplume]

Posted: 8/6/09 at 4:39pm

It was not you, Reginald, though you know you quoted only irrelevant parts from the explanatory text.