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#2

re: John Edwards is Evil

From the NY Times too!

I haven't read this yet- thanks for posting the link, FF.

Updated On: 10/6/04 at 09:45 AM

#3

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If you have ever read any Grisham books, it really puts you off lawyers like John Edwards. They say it is about the people, but when they take only cases that will make them a lot of money for the most part. It shows where your true colors lie. I noticed there wasn't any mention of pro bono work that Edwards has done either. I would be extremely interested on his views in tort reform.
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Updated On: 10/6/04 at 09:52 AM

#4

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#6

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Updated On: 10/6/04 at 09:56 AM

#7

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Why can't we discuss the shortcomings of Edwards too? There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Would you rather have us just vote for someone blindly trusting them? (The way many people have blindly followed Bush after 9/11?)

Papa that disturbs me a bit too much.
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#8

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"... and I have to tell you right now — i didn't plan to talk about this — right now i feel her. i feel her presence. she's inside me, and she's talking to you".

Well... coming from someone who lost a child of his own, I have no trouble believing that his words were heartfelt and sincere. Do you know what it's like to lose a child in an accident???

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#9

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If this board can trash Cheney and Bush, I don't see what's wrong with a little discussion about the Kerry or Edwards.

Of course no one's perfect, Plum.
#10

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Curtain - out of curiosity, does your reaction indicate that you don't find this topic concerning Mr. Edwards to be of any interest, value or concern?
#11

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"Well... coming from someone who lost a child of his own, I have no trouble believing that his words were heartfelt and sincere. Do you know what it's like to lose a child in an accident???"


His child died 11 years after that trial in 1985. While it is horrific to lose a child, don't go trying to ue it as evidence of his sincerity when it doesn't fit.
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Updated On: 10/6/04 at 10:07 AM

#13

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So sorry. My mistake. I thought the aritcle was referring to the 1997 case where he won a $25 million verdict for the family of a young girl injured in a swimming pool.
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#14

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It might have referred to that case in there at one point, but he had made quite a bit of his fortune before 1996 from what I have been able to find. Feel free to prove me wrong though.
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Updated On: 10/6/04 at 10:27 AM

#15

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I was intrigued when Cheney brought-up Johnny Edwards attendence, or lack thereof, record in the Senate. The People pay him a hefty salary to represent them. I will investigate further.

#16

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OMG !! A politician with questionable ethics!

Who knew?

Every election is about choosing the lesser of two evils. There is no perfect candidate nor has there ever been. While his approach is certainly bizarre, who's to say he didn't believe in the cause for which he was fighting? The case quoted occurred in 1985. Then they talk about studies that disprove his theory, but I doubt those studies occurred during the mid-80s. Hindsight is always 20-20, right?

"In building his career, Mr. Edwards underbid other lawyers to win promising clients, sifted through several dozen expert witnesses to find one who would attest to his claims, and opposed state legislation that would have helped all families with brain-damaged children and not just those few who win big malpractice awards."

Sounds like a true politician at work. I'd gladly take him if it means no more Bush. If Edwards is evil, what does that make Bush?
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#17

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"I'd gladly take him if it means no more Bush"

I'm sure Ossama and all the other fvcking terrorists would agree with you on that.

#18

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While you're at it, check on the percentage of time that Bush has been on vacation in the last 4 years (hint -- the number's roughly 40%). THE PEOPLE aren't paying Bush that hefty salary (at a time of war and terrorism and economic collapse) to spend half of his time in Crawford, Texas.
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#19

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"I'm sure Ossama and all the other fvcking terrorists would agree with you on that."

Ummm...exactly what is Bush doing to stop Ossama?
#20

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Margo, you know as well as I do that there's no such thing as the President being on vacation. If he's sitting on a horse in Texas and something happens, he's still the President and deals with it. He still gets his daily briefs, etc. He just doesn't spend 100% of the day working as he does when he's not on "vacation"

A member of the Senate is paid to sit in commitees and vote on legislation. That's what I'm talking about with John Edwards.


Erik what did Clitler, I mean Clinton do for eight years?

#21

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Why do Bush supporters always bring up Clinton? It seems like grasping for straws. Unless you can explain what he has to do with the upcoming election.
#22

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I attack the party as a whole.

Why to Kerry supporters, the people who brought you the Clinton Administration, always try to act like it never happened?

#23

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This isnt suprising to me.

The citizens of NC havent been too happy with the man for several years now.
He has a horrible attendence record.. true.
The things that both me the most are:
He campaigned differently than he votes (when he actually does)
He does things like, sending out a Dear Colleague letter on a vote important to NC's coastline and then doesn't show up for the vote.
I even have very liberal friends that are angry with him because of his behavior.
And also an issue for me--the way he treats his subordinates. I have personally heard stories from interns and they made me lose any remaining respect.

I respect Sen Kennedy. I do not agree with his views but he does his job and he does it well. Sen. Edwards has never served NC and merely used us as a stepping stone.

I have come to expect stories like these over the past 6 years.
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#24

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I abhor John Edwards.

As I've said before, I am related to an ob/gyn. That ob/gyn is not only serving for a 12th year on a State Medical Board, but also is currently on the Federation of State Medical Boards (which is the national board that governs all state boards), teaches at a medical school, and is also serving as chair of the department of obstetrics and gynecology in the women's health department of that university. He is an amazing doctor, specializing in infertility, and people come from other states (and even other countries) to be under his care.

In all his years as a doctor, only one thing has ever gone wrong.

In the 1980s, a woman (not one of his patients) came in to the hospital for an emergency delivery. She was a drug dealer who had a long history of cocaine abuse. She went into cardiac arrest during labor, due to the strain on her heart from said drug abuse. Against all odds, my relative was somehow able to deliver the baby completely unharmed. He then spent over an hour pushing on this woman's heart, trying to revive her. Despite his best efforts, she didn't make it.

Her family sued for $25 million dollars, stating that it was a malpractice case. The parents said that their daughter died due to completely to the doctor's negligence, which is a false statement. The lawyer they hired had very similar tactics to Mr. Edwards (he is actually a friend of the senator), and the family won a great deal of money on a case that had no merit by playing to the emotions of the jury.

Sadly, this kind of case is far from a rarity. And from the research I've done, it seems that these are exactly the kinds of cases that John Edwards chooses to fight: ones that shouldn't be won (so that he can charge more) but involve medical facts that the average jury member is not familiar with (because he can use more charm than fact in his case).

Just because people are well-spoken and convincing, that does not mean they are right. It is charismatic lawyers like John Edwards that hurt the practices of some of the best doctors in the country, all for the sake of money.

In his speech last night, he spoke about putting more responsibility on lawyers in malpractice cases. What he really means is that the persecuting lawyers should be given more power.

Maybe you don't see where I'm coming from here, but I don't want a person like that in office. He's manipulative and out to serve his own best interests. He's very willing to fight battles that should not be fought, putting people that have done no wrong in very bad positions.

Dick Cheney may not be the most charismatic, charming, happy, or honest man in the world, but at least he makes more arguments based on facts than on trying to play off of people's emotions. And while I will be making my vote based on the Presidential candidates over the Vice Presidential ones, the fact that Kerry chose him as a running mate does not speak highly of his ability to judge character. If he becomes president, I worry about who he would appoint to the cabinet and the supreme court.
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Updated On: 10/6/04 at 11:27 AM

#25

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"Erik what did Clitler, I mean Clinton do for eight years?"

Well, he didn't cause worldwide protest against his actions, he wasn't referred to as a dictator by our allies, he didn't start a war against one terrorist (which he reminds us was based on misinformation because God knows nothing could ever be his fault)in order to make us forget about the other (the created one of our nation's largest disasters) that he failed to catch.
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