LOST....who will die?- Page 2

[yodamarie78]

Posted: 11/9/05 at 10:46pm

I think I may be the only person in the world who actually liked Shannon. She had a good character arc and I was hoping for a good redemption for her, beyond what she's already had. I liked her flashback, it gave some more perspective on Shannon and why she is like she is. Unfortunatly now she's dead so the perspective doesn't really matter I guess.

Like wickedrentq I saw it coming and was even thinking that it was going to be Ana, but I was still breathless. How long do you think it be be before someone gets the Walt stuff recorded backwards and on the web so we can find out what he said.

[NCGuy]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 10:13am

Yodamarie, I liked Shannon, too (I was really hoping it was Claire…I like the actress that plays Claire, but the character isn’t very interesting…Thrilled, though, they didn’t kill off my beloved Sun).

According to Entertainment Weekly, Walt said “They’re coming and they’re close”…click on the EW link below…they have an interesting theory about Cindy’s disappearance.


EW Lost Review

[wickedfan2]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 10:17am

Spoiler.....do not scroll down unless you want to know..














I KNEW it couldn't be AL who killed Shannon..Just read a spoiler on the official Lost board that it will be a "Who Shot JR" moment for a while on Lost with the killer revealed as .. I can't believe it was ____________.

Also...review from EW...
Rumble in the Jungle


'Lost': Just when we start to like her, Shannon is killed when Ana Lucia mistakes her for one of the Others; meanwhile, Sawyer's wound gets worse and Locke gets closer to Claire by Scott Brown



BYE-BYE, LOVE Moments after Shannon and Sayid declared their adoration, she was shot through the heart

Sic transit Shannon. And dude, that was some sick transit: a one-way ticket to Deadsville, courtesy Ana Lucia, Shannon's successor as island bitch goddess.

Not that we didn't see this coming. Well, maybe not Ana Lucia's fog-of-war, shot-in-the-dark maneuver. But the death of Shannon was no giant shocker, thanks to the promo department at ABC. ('One of these castaways... will be lost... forever!') As my friend Liz pointed out, Shannon engaged in some high-risk behavior this episode: She had sex with Sayid and later declared her love for him. She was redeemed by her sad flashbacks (in which her dad dies and her Wicked Stepmom attempts to crush her ballerina dreams). Then she went running through the jungle in the rain. 'And she didn't listen to Creepy Wet Walt! Creepy Wet Walt told her to shut up. She didn't listen, and she went screaming off towards him. People who don't listen to Creepy Wet Walt... are dumb.'

Word. On a related note, this is what Walt was saying to Shannon (backwards): 'They're coming and they're close.' How much clearer can he make it? (Okay, significantly clearer, if he didn't Twin Peaks-ify his prophecies.)

All right, enough bawling. It was a good episode, well-built, with a chilling final shot of Sayid transitioning from lover's agony to soldierly fury. (Already, you can hear the chants of vengeance coming from the jungles of fandom: Everyone wants the guy to unleash his inner-Republican Guardsman on Ana Lucia.) So what have we learned? Well, as suspected, Shannon's father was the man in the SUV who smashed into Sarah, Jack's brokeback fiancée. This was confirmed by a quick shot of Jack marching past the doctor who notified Shannon and Wicked Stepmom of Mr. Rutherford's demise. (On a side note: The ER doctor tells Shannon and Wicked Stepmom that Mr. Rutherford died at the scene. Yet, in the season opener, we see Mr. Rutherford die in the ER when Jack makes the choice about which patient to treat. Does this mean someone in the hospital lied... to protect Jack? The same way Jack wasn't willing to lie for his father? Just spitballing.)

Anyhoo, we also determine that either a) Shannon was lying about her age, or b) the writers are asleep at the chronological continuity switch. Shannon is 18 in her flashbacks, but she told Hurley she was 20 when he took the census. However, Jack married Sarah two years after he 'fixed her' — but then the marriage ended, Jack's father killed someone on the operating table...at least a year's worth of activity. And Desmond, who met Jack pre-crash, said he'd been in the hatch for three years. Then again, Shannon was a dancer, and you know how showbiz people are with the age thing...

We also learned that Boone gets even femmier in flashback: Boy, they didn't spare the pancake and eyeliner on that poor guy; with that feathery hair, he looked like she'd just stepped off stage and run right over half out of drag. 'Death sucks, doesn't it?' he said lamely, comforting Shannon at her dad's funeral. Still, it was nice to see the provenance of Shannon's heretofore unexplained behavior: The wheedling, the money-grubbing, the hostility and cruelty to Boone and his mother. Still, as Liz said, 'Why can't she just be a bitch?'

But, as Edward Albee put it, that's all blood under the bridge. The Rutherford-Carlisle clan is completely obliterated now, which means it's highly unlikely the island will be getting a chain of bridal shops anytime soon.

While Shannon and Sayid were plumbing the soon-to-be irrelevant depths of Shannon's psyche, some far more interesting developments were taking place on a jungle escarpment not too far away.

The Tailies and their new friends, Michael, Jin, and Sawyer, were hiking towards Forward-Section camp when they came upon a steep embankment. They began to scale the rise, dragging Sawyer (feverish from his gunshot wound) on a makeshift stretcher. Bringing up the rear of their little caravan were Libby and Cindy. Now here's where things get interesting: By the time they reached the top of the ridge, Cindy was gone, presumably 'taken' by the Others. How did this happen?

With Libby's help.

I'm calling it: Libby's a plant. She's the Ethan of the Tailies' camp.

First off, go to the tape. Libby's the last one to interact with Cindy. And Cindy's carrying a large blue knapsack. By the time they've climbed to the top, Libby's carrying the knapsack. You're telling me she took the knapsack from Cindy and then proceeded to forget all about her? This is a ridge, not K-2 — you don't just 'lose' people like that. Also notable: Cindy hands Libby a walking stick of some sort, just before we lose track of her completely. As this handoff takes place, we see a cavelike opening in the background, right where Cindy's about to pass. And it looks as if there's some sort of shape inside.

But here's my best evidence of Libby's treachery: Tonight, she told Sawyer she's a clinical psychologist. Well, who appears to have designed this tropical house of horrors, according to a certain orientation video? A team of clinical psychologists, that's who. Coincidence? What do you think? Is there such a thing as coincidence in the world of television drama? Consult the little Locke on your left shoulder (as opposed to the tiny Jack on your right).

Speaking of Locke: Terry O'Quinn once again managed to steal the show with little more than a twitch and an ambiguous smile. I enjoyed the establishment of his quiet rivalry with Charlie over father-figure status vis-à-vis Claire's baby. I enjoyed his low-key buttonholing of Charlie for his (continuing?) heroin habit. And I enjoyed the fact that we're nearing a better explanation of Charlie's increasingly irritating behavior. Maybe it's not just the pressures of surrogate fatherhood. Or maybe Charlie just needs to take daddy lessons on something a bit less high-stakes than a real baby.

Because I know a certain dog he could adopt.

What do you think? Will you miss Shannon? Are you with me on Libby being evil? And are you rooting for Sayid to pull out the torture instruments again?


Updated On: 11/10/05 at 10:17 AM

[jasonf]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 11:33am

I went back and rewatched after reading the review on EW. I'll give them the very strong possibility that Libby is not who she seems.

I'm not so sure about the theory that someone posted there that Shannon was stabbed, not shot, and there was another figure in the background. I watched very closely, and there was some movement, but it could have just as easily been rain on the trees.

The one thing that's making me start to think it may have been the Others is the rain -- this scene was awfully similar to the rain fall during Ethan's attack last season...

[singingwendy]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 11:49am

But are we sure Shannon is the goner? Sawyer wasn't looking so hot there at the end of the episode. It would be just like Lost to have her survive and Sawyer be the one who really died. Not that this is what I'd like to see (Sawyer dying)....but neither of them have had much to do lately.

And if Shannon dies, and someone else gets the dog, will they also have visions of Walt? I"m still convinced that dog has something to do with it! LOL!

[wickedfan2]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 12:03pm

Shannon is defintely gone.. and word is she was very pissed because it seems she passed up on some movies to go to Hawaii to then find out her character gets killed and she try to demand her entire pay for the season. Now the clause is written on everyone'contract that they could "die" at any time.

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 12:26pm

Dramatically it would have been better if Anna had killed Claire. That way more of the original survivors, including Charlie and Locke would have had more of a reason to hate her. As it is, nobody really cared all that much about Shannon, with the exception of Siad. I am not surprised it was Shannon, however.

Billygoatgirl, if you hate so many of the main characters so much why do you bother watching?

[yodamarie78]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 12:27pm

I can't decide if I think Libby will turn out to be a plant, but EW does make a compelling argument. I'm sure we'll all have a better idea after getting to know these people better next week. If she is, they couldn't have cast the role better. I fell in love with Cynthia when she was personifying evil as Annie on Guiding Light.

Until I read TV Watch this morning I was thinking that there was something pretty fishy about Cindy. I need to watch the episode again and look closer.

[Michelleruth2]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 1:20pm

Even though the Shannon character was annoying, it would have been much more interesting to kill Claire. The baby would be an "island orphan".

[redhotinnyc2]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 3:25pm

Shannon's character is more than annoying - I didn't even flinch last night when the bad thing happened at the end.
How can people be bored by this show? I swear its this age of "gimmeeverythingNOW"...people don't seem to have much patience any more. I'm finding the show just as interesting as ever, and really look forward to the next new episode which tells the story over again from the beginning, with the other set of survivors.

[RobbO]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 3:28pm

it's what i call the "veruca salt" complex, tinny.

[redhotinnyc2]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 3:32pm

Robbo - that's great! and I love your avatar - ever see Living Out Loud, where Eddie plays a body worker who gives Holly Hunter a massage, while only wearing his tighty whities? Hotchacha!

[RobbO]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 3:33pm

yup, LOL started my fascination with the man that is eddie cibrian.

[redhotinnyc2]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 3:37pm

not to mention that it's a wonderful movie and well played. My favorite scene is when the girls get high and go to the lesbian club and have that wonderful dance number - amazing!

[NCGuy]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 3:45pm

Hey guys, can I join the Eddie Cibrian/Living Out Loud threadjack for a moment?

In the DVD commentary, Richard LaGravenese offered the tantalizing tidbit that the massage scene was originally supposed to be played with Eddie nude, but Holly Hunter thought her character would be more comfortable with him in his boxer briefs.

[RobbO]

Posted: 11/10/05 at 3:46pm

mute bitch!

[wickedfan2]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 10:53am

She (Ana) loves acting tough on 'Lost' 11/15/05

Producers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof are indeed cooking up a love
"quadrangle" between Ana Lucia, Sawyer, Kate and Jack.

In a future episode, we'll see Kate hovering tenderly over a still ailing
Sawyer.

"Our goal was to have more romance in the show this season," said Cuse.
"We're very much going to explore the relationship between the four of
them."

On tomorrow's episode, "The Other 48 Days" (9 p.m. ABC), the harrowing days
endured by the other castaways is revealed. We'll also see more of Ana
Lucia's airport meeting with Jack (Matthew Fox). And Ana Lucia's steely
exterior will show signs of strain.

"You see some of that" in tomorrow's episode, she said. "I'm an open book.
It's hard for me to keep things inside. And there are times when I'm like,
[Ana Lucia] is too intense, she's too tough and every time I start to
vincent, I get another script, and boom, the switcheroo."

The puppet masters confirm they're not done pulling Ana Lucia's strings.

"Exactly what is going on with her character will be one of the big
surprises this season," said Cuse.

[pndmnd]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 1:35pm

I was actually sad to see Shannon go. I think she was just misunderstood, and had always been forgotten. And I think we'll get more of an idea about this whole Libby is a plant thing in this weeks episode when we see the other survivors interating more with each other.

Theory on Walt/the dog:






I don't believe that Shannon was ever with Vince when she "saw" Walt. We know that Walt has some kind of strange control with animals. I think he is still alive, and is using his powers (whatever they may be) to come to Shannon through the dog. So, will he start coming to whomever is taking care of the dog now (presumably Sayid)?