Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#1Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/24/09 at 2:58pm
Seriously?
WASHINGTON ? The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to overrule a 23 year-old decision that stopped police from initiating questions unless a defendant's lawyer is present, the latest stance that has disappointed civil rights and civil liberties groups.
While President Barack Obama has reversed many policies of his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush, the defendants' rights case is another stark example of the White House seeking to limit rather than expand rights.
Obama legal team wants to limit defendants' rights
#2re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/24/09 at 3:03pm
Wouldn't that violate their Miranda Rights?
Even if not, I wonder why he chose this battle. Was there a catalyst that precipitated his feeling the need to do this?
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#2re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/24/09 at 3:08pmThe article says the administration admits that few prosecutions have been prevented by the existence of the rule, but they want it eliminated anyway.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
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#4re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/30/09 at 4:15pmIt sure would make Law & Order more interesting.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#6re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/30/09 at 5:09pm
The Justice Department, in a brief signed by Solicitor General Elena Kagan, said the 1986 decision "serves no real purpose" and offers only "meager benefits." The government said defendants who don't wish to talk to police don't have to and that officers must respect that decision.
Must? Do the officers know that?
#7re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/30/09 at 5:15pmI'm with Matt. The officers MUST do that? Yeah, right.
#8re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/30/09 at 5:18pmThe same genius who decided this musta been the one who decided to have a plane buzz downtown Manhattan this week.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#9re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/30/09 at 5:26pm
But of course the buck stops with the O. Which he admits. Which is refreshing.
I think I heard somewhere there's a memo saying somebody intended to keep the NYC fly-by a secret. Which was simply bril and not what the administration said they wanted after the fact.
#10re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/30/09 at 7:37pm
I can't believe Bush would do this! What an ass hole! He's a criminal, taking away our rights! I hate hate hate him!
Oh, what? It's Obama's administration?
This is a great decision! What else can I say to offer him my support? I better go back to praying at the Altar of Barack!
Q
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/3/05
#11re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/30/09 at 7:47pm
edited to not detract.
Link to full article.
Updated On: 5/1/09 at 07:47 PM
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#12re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 4/30/09 at 10:15pmJudas, your overkill adds nothing to this thread. In fact, it detracts from it.
Q
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/3/05
#13re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 5/1/09 at 2:12am
It's your thread, Namo, so it's removed.
#14re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 5/1/09 at 8:03am
I don't think he was talking to you, Q.
I think he was talking to JudasIscariot.
Did you think he called you "Judas"?
#15re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 5/1/09 at 8:18am
LOL!
I was wondering why Q got offended.
#16re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 5/1/09 at 8:23am
What's the opposite of a "Messiah Complex"?
A "Traitor Complex"?
Q
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/3/05
#17re: Let's go ACLU! Time to slam the administration. Hard.
Posted: 5/1/09 at 9:14am
Ha - that's funny!
I DID think he was talking to me, because I was a little 'pointed' in my disgust over some things. Although, I did think he was a little off the mark, as I never really embraced Mr. Obama in the first place.
Oh, well - I guess this makes it clear how much I notice Judas' posts
And for the record, I wasn't disgusted - I just edited and moved on.
Updated On: 5/1/09 at 09:14 AM
#18hey hey, ho ho, miranda rights have got to go!
Posted: 5/1/09 at 9:19amwho is miranda?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#19hey hey, ho ho, miranda rights have got to go!
Posted: 5/1/09 at 9:24am
#20hey hey, ho ho, miranda rights have got to go!
Posted: 5/1/09 at 10:13amrawr.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#21hey hey, ho ho, miranda rights have got to go!
Posted: 5/1/09 at 10:14am

#22hey hey, ho ho, miranda rights have got to go!
Posted: 5/1/09 at 10:57am

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