#1
Posted: 4/20/07 at 9:35pm
After years of teaching, Limbo is no more according to the Pope
Poster Emeritus
#2
Posted: 4/20/07 at 9:56pm
Wow.
Where's the news article?
Where's the news article?
"A girl like me lands on her feet."
#3
Posted: 4/20/07 at 9:57pm
So now what are we going to do at cookouts?
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#4
Posted: 4/20/07 at 10:05pm
I was thinking the same thing Rath. lol!
Did the Pope just decide this today? So what happens to all the babies that have been in "limbo" all these years now. Do they get back pay?
Did the Pope just decide this today? So what happens to all the babies that have been in "limbo" all these years now. Do they get back pay?
....but the world goes 'round
#6
Posted: 4/20/07 at 10:42pm
You're going to find that Benedict is much more progressive than we ever thought he'd be.
He's exploring the possibility of a married clergy.
He's exploring the possibility of a married clergy.
"Long live God!" (GODSPELL)
Updated On: 4/20/07 at 10:42 PM
#7
Posted: 4/20/07 at 10:44pm
It's fine with me.
I never made it under the bar anyway.
I never made it under the bar anyway.
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#8
Posted: 4/20/07 at 10:44pm
Dollypop is right. We were discussing this in my AP Modern European History class yesterday.
#9
Posted: 4/20/07 at 11:11pm
So, when daylight comes I can just go home?
And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."
#10
Posted: 4/20/07 at 11:47pm
It was a "sin" to eat meat on Friday's for a long time. Then it was OK. We were taught about "limbo" and now it's vanished. Did the Pope wave his magic wand and make it go away or is he slowly letting us know that the heaven/hell thing is all just a fantasy? I guess we will never know the answer to that until we pass on.
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#11
Posted: 4/21/07 at 12:00am
"I guess we will never know the answer to that until we pass on."
No, some of us DO know the answer, and will do the limbo until we pass on without fear.
VIVA LA LIMBO!
No, some of us DO know the answer, and will do the limbo until we pass on without fear.
VIVA LA LIMBO!
#12
Posted: 4/21/07 at 12:01am
I passed on a third Cosmo tonight.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#13
Posted: 4/21/07 at 12:05am
Passed? Or passed out?
Cheyenne Jackson tickled me. AFTER ordering SoMMS a drink but NOT tickling him, and hanging out with Girly in his dressing room (where he DIDN'T tickle her) but BEFORE we got married. To others. And then he tweeted Boobs. He also tweeted he's good friends with some chick on "The Voice" who just happens to be good friends with Tink's ex. And I'm still married. Oh, and this just in: "Pettiness, spite, malice ....Such ugly emotions... So sad." - After Eight, talking about MEEEEEEEE!!! I'm so honored! :-)
#14
Posted: 4/21/07 at 12:06am
Rath did her part for the environment tonight.
(Psst...although the "religious always-right" says it's a myth!)
(Psst...although the "religious always-right" says it's a myth!)
#15
Posted: 4/21/07 at 12:33am
No cathechism has taught limbo seriously since Vatican II.
I do so hate to see my serious gay Catholic friends like Dollypop get their hopes up on the potential progressiveness of The First Nazi Pope in History. Progressive compared to that, I guess.
This just in: aborted gay fetuses STILL go to hell.
I do so hate to see my serious gay Catholic friends like Dollypop get their hopes up on the potential progressiveness of The First Nazi Pope in History. Progressive compared to that, I guess.
This just in: aborted gay fetuses STILL go to hell.
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#16
Posted: 4/21/07 at 6:54am
Namo, I didn't say I LIKED this pope. I'm just saying that there's another side to his personality. There's good and bad in everyone. That's what Robert Lewis Stevenson wrote about in his original JEKYLL AND HYDE.
I still feel the Vatican has to reach out in some way to the victims of priestly pedophilia. Also, the local level of the Church has become very accepting of gays, but the Vatican hasn't altered its stance on the issue very much.
I still feel the Vatican has to reach out in some way to the victims of priestly pedophilia. Also, the local level of the Church has become very accepting of gays, but the Vatican hasn't altered its stance on the issue very much.
"Long live God!" (GODSPELL)
#17
Posted: 4/21/07 at 11:22am
The local level of some churches has become accepting of gay people, but they must tread a fine line lest they be silenced by the Vatican like Father Robert Nugent and Sister Jeannine Gramick.
And I recognize that you didn't get shunned when you declared yourself single and openly-gay at your church, and that's great, but things have a way of getting back to the rather nefarious powers-that-be, as happened with Nugent and Gramick, and it's followed by a clampdown. The teeniest and tiniest of crumbs, such as the notion that Ratzinger is looking at the idea of married clergy (which he's not, he's really not) amount to nothing.
For those who don't know the Gramick and Nugent story, it's a fascinating one. Nugent went along with the muzzling but Gramick refused to be oppressed and found a new home with the INCREDIBLE Sisters of Loreto, one of the feistiest bunch of old ladies around. They're heroes of mine.
The Silencing of the New Ways Ministry
And I recognize that you didn't get shunned when you declared yourself single and openly-gay at your church, and that's great, but things have a way of getting back to the rather nefarious powers-that-be, as happened with Nugent and Gramick, and it's followed by a clampdown. The teeniest and tiniest of crumbs, such as the notion that Ratzinger is looking at the idea of married clergy (which he's not, he's really not) amount to nothing.
For those who don't know the Gramick and Nugent story, it's a fascinating one. Nugent went along with the muzzling but Gramick refused to be oppressed and found a new home with the INCREDIBLE Sisters of Loreto, one of the feistiest bunch of old ladies around. They're heroes of mine.
The Silencing of the New Ways Ministry
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#18
Posted: 4/21/07 at 11:42am
Good God, I assumed that I was the only one around these parts who would know the Loretto Community. I've been to the Motherhouse and prayed in the AIDS Garden - a powerful place, yet so serene. They're a great group of women, even tolerating the fact that I don't agree with one (and only one) of their precepts. But then again, I'm out of sync with many on certain issues. Glad that you're acquainted with them. Good people do walk among us.
#19
Posted: 4/21/07 at 11:44am
I am not a Roman Catholic, so I've never spent any time thinking about the concept of "limbo" until now. In what little I've seen about the pope's decision, it doesn't seem particularly progressive. If anything, it's a conservative approach to reign in aberrant "philosophy" and stick to what can be "proven".
#20
Posted: 4/21/07 at 11:48am
Well, I am Catholic. And I always thought, 'why do we have to go to Limbo and the rest don't? it ain't fair'. But, that aside, this is just another worthless soundbite from the Vatican. I do know the Sisters of Loreto. I worked with one in Calcutta this year, a great woman.
The rain we knew is a thing of the past -
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
#21
Posted: 4/21/07 at 11:52am
The Sisters of Loreto take auxilliary members, men and women. Maybe we should start a BroadwayWorld contingent. I just love the fact that these women have a newsletter called CouRAGE.
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#22
Posted: 4/21/07 at 11:54am
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