After years of teaching, Limbo is no more according to the Pope
Wow.
Where's the news article?
So now what are we going to do at cookouts?
I was thinking the same thing Rath. lol!
Did the Pope just decide this today? So what happens to all the babies that have been in "limbo" all these years now. Do they get back pay?
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
You're going to find that Benedict is much more progressive than we ever thought he'd be.
He's exploring the possibility of a married clergy.
It's fine with me.
I never made it under the bar anyway.
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/20/06
Dollypop is right. We were discussing this in my AP Modern European History class yesterday.
So, when daylight comes I can just go home?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/10/05
It was a "sin" to eat meat on Friday's for a long time. Then it was OK. We were taught about "limbo" and now it's vanished. Did the Pope wave his magic wand and make it go away or is he slowly letting us know that the heaven/hell thing is all just a fantasy? I guess we will never know the answer to that until we pass on.
"I guess we will never know the answer to that until we pass on."
No, some of us DO know the answer, and will do the limbo until we pass on without fear.
VIVA LA LIMBO!
I passed on a third Cosmo tonight.
Passed? Or passed out?
Rath did her part for the environment tonight.
(Psst...although the "religious always-right" says it's a myth!)
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
No cathechism has taught limbo seriously since Vatican II.
I do so hate to see my serious gay Catholic friends like Dollypop get their hopes up on the potential progressiveness of The First Nazi Pope in History. Progressive compared to that, I guess.
This just in: aborted gay fetuses STILL go to hell.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
Namo, I didn't say I LIKED this pope. I'm just saying that there's another side to his personality. There's good and bad in everyone. That's what Robert Lewis Stevenson wrote about in his original JEKYLL AND HYDE.
I still feel the Vatican has to reach out in some way to the victims of priestly pedophilia. Also, the local level of the Church has become very accepting of gays, but the Vatican hasn't altered its stance on the issue very much.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
The local level of some churches has become accepting of gay people, but they must tread a fine line lest they be silenced by the Vatican like Father Robert Nugent and Sister Jeannine Gramick.
And I recognize that you didn't get shunned when you declared yourself single and openly-gay at your church, and that's great, but things have a way of getting back to the rather nefarious powers-that-be, as happened with Nugent and Gramick, and it's followed by a clampdown. The teeniest and tiniest of crumbs, such as the notion that Ratzinger is looking at the idea of married clergy (which he's not, he's really not) amount to nothing.
For those who don't know the Gramick and Nugent story, it's a fascinating one. Nugent went along with the muzzling but Gramick refused to be oppressed and found a new home with the INCREDIBLE Sisters of Loreto, one of the feistiest bunch of old ladies around. They're heroes of mine.
The Silencing of the New Ways Ministry
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/28/04
Good God, I assumed that I was the only one around these parts who would know the Loretto Community. I've been to the Motherhouse and prayed in the AIDS Garden - a powerful place, yet so serene. They're a great group of women, even tolerating the fact that I don't agree with one (and only one) of their precepts. But then again, I'm out of sync with many on certain issues. Glad that you're acquainted with them. Good people do walk among us.
I am not a Roman Catholic, so I've never spent any time thinking about the concept of "limbo" until now. In what little I've seen about the pope's decision, it doesn't seem particularly progressive. If anything, it's a conservative approach to reign in aberrant "philosophy" and stick to what can be "proven".
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/19/06
Well, I am Catholic. And I always thought, 'why do we have to go to Limbo and the rest don't? it ain't fair'. But, that aside, this is just another worthless soundbite from the Vatican. I do know the Sisters of Loreto. I worked with one in Calcutta this year, a great woman.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
The Sisters of Loreto take auxilliary members, men and women. Maybe we should start a BroadwayWorld contingent. I just love the fact that these women have a newsletter called CouRAGE.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/28/04
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