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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

So, if conventional wisodm holds, the GOP will have a sizeable majority in the House, and the Dems will have narrow majority in the Senate. Given that, and the already dysfunctional condition of Congress, what will that mean? Here are some of my thoughts:

1) If the Dems hold only 50 or 51 seats in the Senate, will the GOP be able to draw Lieberman and/or Ben Nelson into their caucus?

2) Irrespective of 1), will ANYTHING get through the Senate, given the GOP's affinity for filibusters?

3) Is Boehner a lock for Speaker? Believe it or not, he may not be conservative enough for the House GOP.

4) Can the GOP stick to their guns (figuratively)? There will likely be an immediate vote to raise the national debt level, something the GOP has campaigned against. Will the GOP vote it down? If so, Social Security checks may stop, and the government could shut down.

5) If Harry Reid loses, who will be the Senate Majority Leader? The Dems couldn't do any worse than Reid.

6) Can the GOP stick to their guns (figuratively), part two? Will they really try to defund healthcare? This could also shut down the government.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
#2

Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

If Reid loses, Dick Durbin will be Leader. He'll do an excellent job.

Republicans will shut down government at some point.

I'm wondering if Michele Bachmann might not challenge Boehner as "queen of the Tea Party."
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

It will be interesting to see if anyone on the GOP can actually lead as oppose to block.

I also think there is a chance that either Collins or Snowe may flip to the Dems.

Updated On: 11/2/10 at 10:33 AM

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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

According to an article I read on CNN, the bi-partisan experts predict a net gain for the GOP of at least 45 seats (39 is needed to gain control) Most predict at least 50, some say it could be as high as 70. Again, these are all net gain. It's a grim outlook. There goes health care, gay rights, and the neighborhood.


ETA:http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/01/final-predictions-in-battle-for-congress/?hpt=C2
"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert

Updated On: 11/2/10 at 11:07 AM

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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

Perhaps rather than being a GOP strategist, you should think about what the Democrats have done and should do in the future.

They had control of both houses and a Democrat POTUS, and yet they drove the misery index up further, got us much deeper in debt and did nothing for the millions suffering on unemployment.

If the GOP takes power, perhaps the Democrats could start by agreeing to leave the Bush tax cuts in place.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

Updated On: 11/2/10 at 11:08 AM

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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

"It's a grim outlook. There goes health care, gay rights, and the neighborhood."

singtopher, if President Obama is not going to do anything about gay rights, why should Republicans?
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

Could you please reconcile your desire for the tax cuts to stay in place with your concern over our debt?
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

Touche, goth. At I had a chance with a Democratic congress.
"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

"Could you please reconcile your desire for the tax cuts to stay in place with your concern over our debt?"

The economy is locked up right now. Everyone is too afraid to spend money and so they are only buying what is necessary.

Obama and his free spending government have not been able to change that, despite stupid programs like "cash for clunkers" and his numerous "stimulus" ideas.

If tax cuts elapse, people will be seeing more tax taken out of their paychecks and it will freeze the economy even more.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

So, you don't really care about the deficit? And by the way, Obama did cut taxes, a fact which most people tend to ignore. The Dems agree on middle-class tax cuts, the sticking point is the cut for high-earners. Is it your argument that the top earners are more likely to spend a tax cut than the middle or lower classes? That would fly in the face of all logic and experience.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

"Goth, Democrats introduced legislation to repeal don't ask don't tell and Republicans voted unanimously against it."

As has been pointed out before, the Senate started with 57 Democrats, 2 Independents who vote with the Democrats and 41 Republicans. It only takes 60 votes. You mean to tell me that Democrats couldn't get 1 vote for gay rights from the Republicans?
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

"You mean to tell me that Democrats couldn't get 1 vote for gay rights from the Republicans?"

That is absolutely true. Every GOP senator voted to filibuster.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

"That is absolutely true. Every GOP senator voted to filibuster."

Perhaps your argument should be with Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor?
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

You mean to tell me that Democrats couldn't get 1 vote for gay rights from the Republicans?

GothamPC will you here and now admit this was indeed the case?
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

JoeKv99, will you admit here and now that Obama is a failure because he couldn't even get two Democrats to vote in line the the Democratic platform.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

Oh, I really wish we had an intelligent, articulate, reasonable conservative to participate in a rational debate.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

I know. It's always hard to accept the truth. But it is true that two Democrats voted against gay rights.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

1) If the Dems hold only 50 or 51 seats in the Senate, will the GOP be able to draw Lieberman and/or Ben Nelson into their caucus?
This is why I am hoping for some positive developments. I have more faith in a schizophrenic on crack than those two. Nelson is already one of them but Lieberman would definitely be a symbolic move that will piss more people off.

2) Irrespective of 1), will ANYTHING get through the Senate, given the GOP's affinity for filibusters?
It would have to be something completely inoffensive but even that has gotten smaller in possibilities.

3) Is Boehner a lock for Speaker? Believe it or not, he may not be conservative enough for the House GOP.
Yes he's a lock. There may be a push for a 'young gun' like Ryan or Cantor but those two will be probably rewarded with being a WHIP or in some chairmanship in the House.

4) Can the GOP stick to their guns (figuratively)? There will likely be an immediate vote to raise the national debt level, something the GOP has campaigned against. Will the GOP vote it down? If so, Social Security checks may stop, and the government could shut down.
I call semantics on a shut down.

5) If Harry Reid loses, who will be the Senate Majority Leader? The Dems couldn't do any worse than Reid.
I think Durbin will not be Majority Leader figuring he is too close to Obama as his senior former colleague in Illinois. I say it will be Schumer but I also think Harry Reid survives to null this discussion.

6) Can the GOP stick to their guns (figuratively), part two? Will they really try to defund healthcare? This could also shut down the government.
Doesn't the real meat and potatoes of healthcare hit in 2014?
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Madbrian's Things To Watch After This Election

And, for the record, Lincoln and Pryor are weak, and used the GOP filibuster to take cover on this vote. If the GOP hadn't filibustered, they would have gone along with the Dems.

If I lived in Arkansas, I wouldn't vote for either of them.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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