#1
Posted: 5/3/06 at 4:37pm
just on CNN, live.
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
#2
Posted: 5/3/06 at 4:40pm
I just won a bet on this one.
Personally I think life is a FAR harsher sentence for him. Taking his life would have been just what he wanted.
Personally I think life is a FAR harsher sentence for him. Taking his life would have been just what he wanted.
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#3
Posted: 5/3/06 at 4:41pm
yea!!! NO DEATH!!!! NO MARTYRDOM!!!! YIPPEE!!!
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#4
Posted: 5/3/06 at 4:41pm
I agree Mamie.
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#5
Posted: 5/3/06 at 4:41pm
I thought that they would give him death, but thought Life was the right choice.
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#6
Posted: 5/3/06 at 4:43pm
I think the jury made a wise decision...
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#7
Posted: 5/3/06 at 6:46pm
I thought this said Mussolini gets a life. I was like WTF??
I think this decision was pretty wise as well.
I think this decision was pretty wise as well.
~And let us try, before we die, to make some sense of life~
#8
Posted: 5/3/06 at 7:07pm
This way is a faster death sentence.
Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.
#9
Posted: 5/3/06 at 7:27pm
Etolie, it sounds like he will be in solitary. No interaction with other inmates, meals will be served to him in his cell. One hour a day in what has been described as a dog run. No access to books newspapers, and I would assume no internet.
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Conan O'Brien
Updated On: 5/3/06 at 07:27 PM
#11
Posted: 5/3/06 at 7:34pm
Kelzama, my exact thought.
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#13
Posted: 5/4/06 at 1:10am
Why?
Did you serve on the jury or hear all of the evidence? Or, are you just trying to take vengence out on someone the government tells you is guilty?
Did you serve on the jury or hear all of the evidence? Or, are you just trying to take vengence out on someone the government tells you is guilty?
Updated On: 5/4/06 at 01:10 AM
#14
Posted: 5/4/06 at 1:47am
I wholeheartedly agree with this decision.
No, I don't know the exact ins and outs of the case, but life in prison is far worse than the death penalty.
No, I don't know the exact ins and outs of the case, but life in prison is far worse than the death penalty.
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#15
Posted: 5/4/06 at 2:41am
"Or, are you just trying to take vengence out on someone the government tells you is guilty?"
Minor legal technicality but I believe a jury told us he was guilty.
Minor legal technicality but I believe a jury told us he was guilty.
Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.
#16
Posted: 5/4/06 at 7:30am
"I think this decision is despicable."
Are you saying this because you think he should have gotten the death sentence? If so, think of it this way, these extremists are not afraid of death, they see it as a reward. Killing him would have also provided an opportunity for him to be made into a martyr and an good example.
Life in soloitary confinement is worse than a quick death.
Are you saying this because you think he should have gotten the death sentence? If so, think of it this way, these extremists are not afraid of death, they see it as a reward. Killing him would have also provided an opportunity for him to be made into a martyr and an good example.
Life in soloitary confinement is worse than a quick death.
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#17
Posted: 5/4/06 at 9:06am
"Or, are you just trying to take vengence out on someone the government tells you is guilty?"
No, and please don't ascribe motive to my opinion because it differs from yours. Or incorrectly assume I can be spoonfed info from the government because I believe a death sentence is, in this case, completely justifiable.
No, and please don't ascribe motive to my opinion because it differs from yours. Or incorrectly assume I can be spoonfed info from the government because I believe a death sentence is, in this case, completely justifiable.
#18
Posted: 5/4/06 at 9:08am
He wants to die in the hands of America. That's the point. The death penalty would make him the happiest man in the world. What about rotting slowly in prison for a terrorist is despicable? You've got to be joking here...
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#19
Posted: 5/4/06 at 9:50am
I'm not joking, and again (sigh!) it's just my opinion. Of course I have no remorse about a terrorist rotting in jail for the rest of his useless life. I just don't think that the punishment fits the crime.
What he "wants" (martyrdom) or doesn't want is irrelevant to me.
He was on trial for crimes he readily admits. He is vile and unrepentant and boastfully admits his guilt. He claimed he planned to hijack a commercial airliner and crash it into the White House. He was found guilty, and was also found eligible for the death penalty. They decided not to give it to him...it's the sentence I disagree with.
What's more, the experience of the World Trade Center bombings shows that society may not really be protected with Moussaoui behind bars. Those planners have again and again shown an ability to communicate with the outside world. His being alive sends a message to terrorists that no crime against the US--even one of THIS magnitude--could ever warrant the ultimate punishment and the fact that his very living may incite future terrorist undertakings.
What he "wants" (martyrdom) or doesn't want is irrelevant to me.
He was on trial for crimes he readily admits. He is vile and unrepentant and boastfully admits his guilt. He claimed he planned to hijack a commercial airliner and crash it into the White House. He was found guilty, and was also found eligible for the death penalty. They decided not to give it to him...it's the sentence I disagree with.
What's more, the experience of the World Trade Center bombings shows that society may not really be protected with Moussaoui behind bars. Those planners have again and again shown an ability to communicate with the outside world. His being alive sends a message to terrorists that no crime against the US--even one of THIS magnitude--could ever warrant the ultimate punishment and the fact that his very living may incite future terrorist undertakings.
#20
Posted: 5/4/06 at 10:37am
However, blueroses, he only PLANNED on doing it. He never actually did it.
The point being we enter very dangerous territory if we start executing people for PLANNING to do something rather than actually doing it.
That said, I think we are in dangerous territory whenever we execute someone.
The point being we enter very dangerous territory if we start executing people for PLANNING to do something rather than actually doing it.
That said, I think we are in dangerous territory whenever we execute someone.
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It dishonors those who go before us,
So lift me up to the light of change."
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Updated On: 5/4/06 at 10:37 AM
#21
Posted: 5/4/06 at 10:53am
The jury didn't really share any of the emotions people are projecting onto them. As was their job--and their constitutional duty--they simply deliberated based on the FACTS of the case.
From the AP article:
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The jury rejected two key defense arguments -- that Moussaoui suffers a mental illness and that executing him would make him a martyr. No jurors indicated on the verdict form that they gave any weight to those arguments.
Nine jurors found that Moussaoui suffered a difficult childhood in a dysfunctional family where he spent many of his early years in and out of orphanages. Three found that Moussaoui only played a minor role in 9/11.
Defense lawyer Gerald Zerkin said outside court that "it was obvious that they thought his role in 9/11 was not very great and that played a significant role in their decision."
Prosecutors, who pursued the Moussaoui case for 4 1/2 years, declared themselves satisfied with the jury's verdict.
Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, who was chief prosecutor in Alexandria in December 2001 when Moussaoui first was charged, noted that the jury in the trial's first phase found Moussaoui responsible for the 9/11 attacks by concealing the al-Qaida plot from FBI agents after he was arrested in August 2001 on immigration violations.
"It only takes one juror to reject imposition of the death penalty, and we respect that," McNulty said.
Moussaoui: U.S. Will Never Catch Bin Laden
From the AP article:
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The jury rejected two key defense arguments -- that Moussaoui suffers a mental illness and that executing him would make him a martyr. No jurors indicated on the verdict form that they gave any weight to those arguments.
Nine jurors found that Moussaoui suffered a difficult childhood in a dysfunctional family where he spent many of his early years in and out of orphanages. Three found that Moussaoui only played a minor role in 9/11.
Defense lawyer Gerald Zerkin said outside court that "it was obvious that they thought his role in 9/11 was not very great and that played a significant role in their decision."
Prosecutors, who pursued the Moussaoui case for 4 1/2 years, declared themselves satisfied with the jury's verdict.
Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, who was chief prosecutor in Alexandria in December 2001 when Moussaoui first was charged, noted that the jury in the trial's first phase found Moussaoui responsible for the 9/11 attacks by concealing the al-Qaida plot from FBI agents after he was arrested in August 2001 on immigration violations.
"It only takes one juror to reject imposition of the death penalty, and we respect that," McNulty said.
Moussaoui: U.S. Will Never Catch Bin Laden
#22
Posted: 5/4/06 at 11:08am
I was really glad when I heard he got a life sentence. But does anyone know if he's in isolation? I hope so at least.
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#24
Posted: 5/4/06 at 11:23am
Snippy today, Miss!
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#25
Posted: 5/4/06 at 11:27am
This has been a ridiculous charade by the Justice Department to cover up the fact that our President has been unable to find Osama. Millions of dollars and wasted in an attempt to execute an individual whose crime was to be silent!
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