My Take On The John Edwards Scandal- Page 3
My Take On The John Edwards Scandal
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#50a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:21am
"Again, you have to look at the timing with all of this. The affair happened when he was out of office."
That doesn't matter. He was still an important part of the DNC (with possibility of being a VP, AG or Poverty Czar). It would have been in the DNC's best interest to keep this story quiet. So we don't as of yet know what political money was paid.
#51a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:34am
Papa, you might be right. However, this will be tricky to prove, won't it? She was hired to do videos for his website so she was getting paid by his campaign, but she was doing legitimate work for him.Now, if she was getting paid 5 times more than anyone else I think that would draw a red flag.
Goth, I am not disagreeing with you on that part. The DNC had no idea about any of this and like you said, we don't know as of yet what political money was paid. The story broke Friday and the speculating is being mixed in with facts.
The man created a huge mess. As my brother said, 'At least Eliot Spitzer's girl was how. John Edwards could do SO MUCH better!' Of course, as long as we are speculating is it possible that there were other girls besides this one?
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#52a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:45am
"The story broke Friday and the speculating is being mixed in with facts."
No, the story broke months ago, the MSM didn't want to report it until Friday in the hopes that the opening of the Olympics would trump the news and it would be swept under the rug. The British press had reported the story several days ago.
#53a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:13am
Didn't want to report it? LOL! The National Enquirer also broke months ago a story that Bush was drinking and taking drugs again and that he and Laura were getting a divorce? Why hasn't the MSM media reported on this one? You rely on gossip and rumors too much until they start doing it to to someone you like.
John admitted it Friday. I can play this game as well with plenty of GOP politicians. I have heard Lindsay Graham has a male boyfriend and has for years.
Why didn't FOX NEWS break the story before this Goth since they are in your opinion NOT considered the MSM? Weren't they sleeping on the job as well? What about the New York Post? Can't have it both ways ya know!
Like I said, the media lives for stories like this. If they had the facts sooner, it would have come out sooner.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#54a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:18am
"Why didn't FOX NEWS break the story before this Goth since they are in your opinion NOT considered the MSM?"
Fox News was talking about it earlier. The pressure from Fox and the British press is what finally made Edwards come out and make his statement. The convention is in two weeks, the Dems don't want this issue muddying up the convention.
#55a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:25am
SO was Perez Hilton. He reported it a few weeks ago with a 'take it with a grain of salt" attitude. So you make it sound irresponsible of the media for actually looking into the story rather than being the first to report it. That seems to be more important these days. Being the first to break a story and not being 100% correct about it.
So, you are bitter that the story took this long to break? You know Goth, I disagree with you on a lot of things but this Edwards Scandal is one that I think you and I agree on. Only difference is it sounds like you want there to be more to this story than there is. If there is more dirt it will come out. Are you this hungry for liberal blood?
I am waiting for the other stories the Enquirer has been reporting on about McCain and Bush to come to light. Why hasn't the MSM media reported on the McCain story or the Bush's story? Can you explain this to me? You are hinting of a liberal bias, yet the story broke and there is hardly any sign of a liberal bias on the reporting.
More hot air I presume.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#56a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:42am
"So, you are bitter that the story took this long to break? You know Goth, I disagree with you on a lot of things but this Edwards Scandal is one that I think you and I agree on. Only difference is it sounds like you want there to be more to this story than there is. If there is more dirt it will come out. Are you this hungry for liberal blood?"
First of all, I'm not bitter. I'm glad this story broke. With as much non-stop coverage as the MSM gives to how wide a man spreads his legs in a bathroom stall, it's about time some dirt gets thrown in the direction of liberals.
If the MSM had been doing their job, it wouldn't have been left to the National Enquirer. As I said in a previous post, this clearly shows the liberal bias of the media. They didn't want to report/follow-up this story because it doesn't fit in with their agenda.
#57a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:54am
The Larry Craig scandal is like the Edwards scandal. No one party gets a free ride and anyone who think s they do is a damn fool.
Well, again I have to ask, and maybe you will actually give me an answer this time. Where was the MSM media when the Enquirer broke the Limbaugh story? WHat about this McCain story they have reported on just recently? How about the bush stories? Liberal media? The Edwards scandal has proven you wrong Goth.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/63426
And just to show there is no liberal bias at the Enquirer
So Goth, why not just admit you are a hypocrite.
You believe and trust the Enquirer when they post a story about a liberal but you call them a tabloid rag and a gossip paper when they report on a story about a Republican.SO are all the stories the Enquirer reports on true or only the ones you dream about being true?
The only one bias here IS YOU!
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#58a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:57am
"The Larry Craig scandal is like the Edwards scandal."
No, when the Larry Craig scandal broke, that's all we heard for days. We had to hear every minute detail. The DNC is trying to shut down the Edwards scandal before the convention and the media is assisting them.
#59a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:04pm
And we will here about this for days, so what you complaining about? You don;t mind hearing a story for days as long its about someone you hate but a anti gay GOP Senator who has been outed is something you don't like be reminded of so the media has to stop reporting about it because YOU have a problem with it? LOL!
OK, 4th time asking Goth. Are the stories the Enquirer are reporting about Bush, Limbaugh and McCain suppose to be taken seriously or just the stories about Democrats? Give us an answer. You preach about bias then run like a coward when asked a simple question.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#60a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:08pm
"Are the stories the Enquirer are reporting about Bush, Limbaugh and McCain suppose to be taken seriously or just the stories about Democrats? Give us an answer."
The point is that had the MSM been doing their job, it wouldn't have been left to the NE. Give us an answer on that.
#61a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:16pm
I have given you the answer to that. Wouldn't it have been better if the story broke while he was still running for President? Like before Iowa? More papers would have been sold back then because it would have actually mattered.If the media is liberal like you claim, why break the story at all? Why not keep it a secret, like Fox News did.I mean, they are just as guilty. They may have mentioned it but they failed to stand by it and report it and actually break the story. So, you are gonna give Fox a free pass. Like I said. Total hypocrite.
FYI, you STILL have not answered my question because you can not. You contradict yourself. You have to believe the BS yourself Goth in order for others to believe it.
mejusthavingfun
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/12/06
#62a private matter -- let edward set the the tone
Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:28pm
"The point is that had the MSM been doing their job, it wouldn't have been left to the NE. Give us an answer on that."
I'm not sure how far "investigative journalism" needs to extend into someone's bedroom. You're right the MSM isn't doing it's job, but that job shouldn't involve balancing bias. The so-called"liberal" media is just non-existent. Right now it's the web and like one national radio station.
If you find the media to be liberal now, I can't imagine what you would say if they actually reported facts based on proof. For some reason there has been this move to make a dichotomy out of the MSM. Like the media should opinionate truth and evidence.
If facts are inherently liberal and you don't want to believe fact then you can live in a state of dumb objectivity but don't expect the rest of us to.
#63a private matter -- my ass
Posted: 8/12/08 at 12:04pm
oh and rom, why was she with him when he announced his candidacy? does anyone really think if this was over and he'd already told elizabeth that rielle would have been with him there? seriously?
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#64a private matter -- my ass
Posted: 8/12/08 at 12:22pm
I saw that Papa. I think John and his mistress are scum but I am doing my best to hold back my feelings towards Elizabeth. Still feel she should have stepped in and told John NOT to run or endorse! I do feel bad for her, but she should have known better. She was also trying to mislead the public by withholding important information.
What really angers me is I was his biggest supporter. More so in 2004 than 2008, but I was out there hoping he would get another chance at becoming VP. If the man just went away and retired from politics there is a damn good chance this story would have never broke.
The real mystery now is who leaked the story and how much did the Enquirer pay for the story? All of this is and will come out, its only a matter of time.
#65a private matter -- my ass
Posted: 8/12/08 at 12:29pmwell, the hotel set-up was definitely her buddy, bob mcgovern. as far as the original leak? dunno. seems like she was not realy shy about dropping hints about her "love lips" boy.
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#66a private matter -- my ass
Posted: 8/12/08 at 12:56pm
"The real mystery now is who leaked the story and how much did the Enquirer pay for the story? All of this is and will come out, its only a matter of time."
Is the source really that important?
Not to discount anyone's intelligence or anything, but a lesson has been served. That is, all politicians are human. The minute we start treating them as infallible beings, we set ourselves up for disappointment. Only the Pope's got that one on lock-down but I digress.
All I want from any politician who represents my interests is to do my bidding, end of story. I don't need him or her to save me from myself or right every societal wrong or shove democracy down the throats of foreigners who have no taste for it. Does that make me a self-absorbed azzhole? Perhaps, but it helps me keep things simple, maintain a balanced perspective on political turf wars and avoid unrealistic expectations of those in elected office.
I'm also never going to support a candidate who doesn't know how to pick his/her battles either. Edwards has been advocating "class warfare" in a period when the nation desperately needs a "uniter", not a "sovereign monarch" or "polarizing partisan".
#67a private matter -- my ass
Posted: 8/12/08 at 1:04pmThe source really isn't that important, but depending on who it is and their motives adds a little mystery to the scandal. Edwards said in his NIGHTLINE interview that eh got a call to show up at the hotel and he went. However, the Enquirer was planted there waiting which makes me wonder if this was actually a scheduled event. The Mistress's sister says John is lying about the dates. Well, that is obvious. Also her not wanting any test done to know who the father is also makes me wonder.This all stinks and I think Edwards ABC interview is going to come back and haunt him.
mejusthavingfun
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/12/06
#68a private matter -- my ass
Posted: 8/12/08 at 1:38pmAs much as I don't care what he does in the bedroom his career is about over.
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