My Take On The John Edwards Scandal- Page 2

[madbrian]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 12:09am

Seems like Rielle has declined to have a paternity test done:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/09/edwards.paternity/index.html

[romantico]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 12:32am

Man, he must be paying her a fortune. She lives in a 3 million dollar home. Are we suppose to believe that she bought that herself? He does not want a paternity test and he is paying her to publicly refuse. He says the dates don't match, but I have no reason at all to take him on his word.When he met her a few weeks back at the hotel he didn't tell his wife til after he met with her. So, again he keeps her out of the loop and tells her after he has done what he is apologizing for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCc7x4z52o0

[Gothampc]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 12:36am

"The real hypocrisy will come Monday when Rush Limbaugh will talk about the National Enquirer as the Gospel and how it is SO reliable"

Let's go over this one more time.

Rush Limbaugh = private citizen, can be as hypocritical as he wants to be because nobody needs to trust him to be a leader

John Edwards = elected public official, needs to be trusted by the public that he's not lying, one quality of being a leader is that the person needs to be honest

You're trying to compare apples and oranges

Updated On: 8/10/08 at 12:36 AM

[romantico]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 8:49am

Goth, I am in no way defending Edwards but he is no longer a public official. Limbaugh made fun and mocked trial lawyers......til he needed one. He said if you are guilty of a crime, you get Roy Black to defend you. Roy Black gets guilty people off the hook. He said this because Black defended a Kennedy and Rush was guilty and anted to get off the hook.Limbaugh to this day continues to judge those who abuse prescription drugs, usually labeling them unemployed crack ho's. Limbaugh abused Oxycontin and Viagra and he even abused the Oxycontin so much it made him go deaf.Anyone who would listen to such an idiot and take him seriously is no better than he is.

He is big fat hypocrite and your desperate attempt to defend the gas bag is sad.

Updated On: 8/10/08 at 08:49 AM

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 9:37am

rom, you know that it was the enquirer that broke the rush oxycontin story, right?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 9:53am

Did I miss Roxy saying we should stick a fork in Edwards?

[romantico]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 9:59am

Yeah Papa I do. That was my point. People who dislike Edwards will take this and use it to back up their hatred towards Edwards but dismiss the Drug story on Limbaugh by saying its a tabloid paper with no credibility. I saw 2 weeks ago or so a John McCain love child story and for months stories of Bush drinking and taking drugs and claims Laura wants a divorce. Should we be looking at those stories as well? Or, does the Enquirer get a story right only once every couple of years? People decide what papers to believe one day and then trash the same paper the next. Republicans do this with the New York Times. If a story comes out that is pro-Bush they love it and applaud their fair reporting. If they publish a critical story of Bush its liberal media propaganda.The Enquirer got a story or two right. Does this mean they are no longer considered a tabloid rag?

Updated On: 8/10/08 at 09:59 AM

[jasonf]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 10:25am

Goth - are saying that Rush Limbaugh has no responsibility for honesty? Someone who literally MILLIONS of people listen to on a regular basis, many of whom apparently can't distinguish between truth and lies -- this person has no responsibility as someone to be trusted? That is a truly frightening idea...

[Kalimba]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 4:46pm

John Edwards is a pig, but I also blame the opportunistic slut he cheated with.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 5:10pm

Wow- opportunisitc slut? Do you have anything you are basing that...oh never mind. Of course not.

[romantico]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 5:26pm

It does make you wonder what kind of woman would cheat on a man with kids and a wife who is dying of cancer?

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 6:13pm

a batsh*t crazy one.

"...rielle told me that she and novelist jay mcinerney were working on a 'genius' idea for a television show about women who help men get out of failing marriages by having affairs with them."

the mind reels.
the healer

[Kalimba]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 7:52pm

Yes, opportunistic slut. Last time I checked, there were two people involved.

From a newspaper article:

"....Hunter subsequently was hired by an Edwards political action committee to produce documentaries, and traveled around the country and to Africa with him, ABC News said...."

"....Fred Baron, a Texas lawyer who was the finance chairman of Edwards's two presidential campaigns, in 2004 and this year, said in an interview that he has been sending unspecified sums of money to Hunter without informing Edwards. The payments helped Hunter relocate from North Carolina to a $3 million Santa Barbara home...."

[Auggie27]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 9:32pm

Everyone screaming "But this is a private matter!" should immediately put in a call to Mr. Edwards, and say that very thing -- speak to the man who stated it's over and done with, end of story but then couldn't resist putting in calls to two additional media figures (Bob Schieffer the major one).

If it's so private, then tell the offending individual to approach his "private life" with a modicum of self-discipline and oh yeah, a minimum of that "narcisssim" being used as a catch-all blame for the whole sordid episode.

If you opt to carry on an extramarital liaision, do so with a sense of what makes "private life" truly private -- attention to pesky details about relationships maintenance. If you find yourself regretting it, do not allow monied friends to step in and move the relevant parties across the country, and end up in multi-million dollar homes.

If you care about women's issues in your campaign -- you know women, complex beings with personal integrity, women like your wife, your daughter, your mistress, too -- you won't hide behind things like "being in remission" and being exonerated by paternity test results. Please, it wouldn't work on Maury Povich; you expect such posturing to save you?

If you want the wholemess to be treated as private matter, Mr. Edwards, start by treating it that way yourself. Keep hush money-packing pals out of it, and then, be man enough to stay away from a microphone, and be Democrat enough to shut the f--k up when people more principaled than you are busting their balls to get to the White House. Finally, just go away. Sooner rather than later. Disappear.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 9:40pm

Yeah, what Auggie said.

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 9:49pm

Yeah, what Y said.

Edwards is a disgrace and should retire from all public life. I assume that he is checking his files to confirm that his law license is in good standing.

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 8/10/08 at 10:10pm

Auggie just reminded me of Edwards' statement about his wife's "remission." I found that particularly chilling.

[mc1227]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:11am

He is a weasel and I've thought that before this scandal came out. He totally turned against Hillary for what seemed like a deal with Obama for VP. Looks like that won't be happening. Tough luck John...I guess we should annoint you a saint because you didn't cheat until your wife was in remission. If that isn't the biggest crock of crap since Bill's "I didn't inhale" comment, I don't know what is.

Just another reason that we need change. We need a female politican who cheats on her husband!!!

Updated On: 8/11/08 at 12:11 AM

[best12bars]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 8:00am

I've never found him to be anything other than a colossal phony.

He's never come across as sincere, ever. About anything.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 9:25am

This is not a private matter. Someone needs to investigate to see if campaign money was used to pay this woman off.

[romantico]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 9:31am

Edwards has enough money and I would guess any money paid to her would have been before his presidential run. Don't worry Goth, I am sure that has already crossed their mind. As dumb as Edwards was, he wanted to keep this story quiet and leaving a trail for anyone to follow would have been a precaution he would have taken.

I would have agreed with you if he was still running or in public office now. He is not, so it is a private matter.

Updated On: 8/11/08 at 09:31 AM

[Gothampc]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 9:54am

"Edwards has enough money and I would guess any money paid to her would have been before his presidential run."

Rich people don't use their own money. We don't know what money was paid earlier this year to try and keep the story out of the National Enquirer.

[romantico]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:02am

Well, you are speculating. Edwards being the lawyer and also wanting this story to be quiet, would have used his own money. Using campaign money would draw attention to him and the evidence shows he did all he could to keep it quiet.Again, you have to look at the timing with all of this. The affair happened when he was out of office. Anymore the candidates have nothing to do with the money or how it was spent. Usually the campaign managers are in charged of that and we have already heard from his ex campaign manager and his comments were not very nice.

We already have a bad story with disturbing details. Why you are now adding speculation and drama to it really shows your unfair and all out determination to smear a guy who has already done the damage to himself.

Why not stick with the facts and what we know instead of speculating? I am not saying what you are suggesting is not possible, but not likely due to his desire to keep this quiet.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:11am

actually, rom, that's the sticking point. she was paid by $114k by his one america pac starting in july 2006.

"in early april, hunter wrote about a trip she had taken to north carolina to see the man whom she affectionately referred to as 'my love lips.'"

don't screw the crazy lady

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:19am

plus the fact that the "webisodes" she produiced for him were used on the edwards for president website - until the cat got out of the bag and they were scrubbed from the website.
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