NY Times: Al Gore on Gay Marriage

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 3:40pm

A very interesting read.


Gore’s Gay Marriage Gambit
By Tobin Harshaw



It’s widely agreed that Al Gore, private citizen, has done more to move the global political debate than Al Gore, elected official, ever did. Now Gore, who as vice president supported the Defense of Marriage Act, has put up a video on his Current TV Web site in which he stands up for gay marriage: “Gay men and women ought to have the same rights as heterosexual men and women — to make contracts, to have hospital visiting rights, to join together in marriage, and I don’t understand why it is considered by some people to be a threat to heterosexual marriage…” .......................
Why isn't he a candidate?

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 3:43pm

Another article

[Ida Noodleman]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 3:46pm

I'm not a bit surprised. Imagine where we would be now if not for those hanging chads seven years ago.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 4:14pm

Al Gore and I are getting married.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 4:16pm

Why isn't he a candidate?

I think he's just biding his time. I mean, who really wants to be known as the President to clean up Bush's mess? If I were Gore, I'd wait, too.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 4:18pm

He should be our next President!
Vidoe Thread

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 4:48pm

I dunno, I get why he isn't running. Running against Hillary would seem like a conflict of interests and REALLY undermine the whole party... can you imagine the fireworks? The Clinton machine vs. Al Gore. I almost want to see it.

I'm starting to feel a bit pissed at him for stepping aside and letting Bill shoot for his second presidency though. Where was Bill Clinton the last eight years (aside from undermining John Kerry's campaign so as not to steal Hillary's thunder in '0? What was Hillary doing besides helping the Bush administration get everything it wanted? Meanwhile, Al Gore was busying himself trying to save the world instead of planning the restoration.

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 9:58pm

It's too bad he isn't running. Al Gore makes me proud to be an American. Bush on the other hand is just an embarrassment.

[jaystarr]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 10:03pm

Al Gore was our President in 2000... George Bush stole the election.

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 1/24/08 at 10:09pm

Too bad thats not a capital offense.

[roquat]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 12:49am

When Bush leaves office, are people going to be throwing rocks and rotten tomatoes at him? More to the point, will he and his cronies be called to account for their offenses, or will they be pardoned like Nixon?

[Plum]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 5:10am

You don't need pardons if you never even get indicted, let alone convicted.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 7:26am

but plum, he's been indicted, convicted and sentenced to death in the all-important bww court of opinion!

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 7:55am

President Obama would pardon him. So would President Gore. President Clinton would not.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 8:54am

fortunately, we won't have to deal with any of those options. prsident mccain will headbutt conyers into dropping all investigations.

[Izzie2]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 7:37pm

you're beginning to disapoint me papa....I haven't seen anything from you lately with FIRE! No heated arguments with anyone...

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 8:08pm

"President Obama would pardon him. So would President Gore. President Clinton would not."

Still waiting for you to back up these claims... :P

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 8:34pm

It's not a claim. It's a prediction. How does one "back up" a prediction?

Do you honestly think President Obama would allow the prosecution of George Bush to derail his presidency?

Updated On: 1/25/08 at 08:34 PM

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 10:18pm

Easily. The terms predict and claim are pretty much synonymous. In fact, wikipedia defines prediction as such:

"A prediction is a statement or claim that a particular event will occur in the future in more certain terms than a forecast."

From ask.com:

"Predictions are probabilistic estimates of future occurrences based upon many different estimation methods, including past patterns of occurrence and statistical projections of current data."

Jes' sayin' it's not unreasonable to ask someone to back up what they say, be it a claim or a prediction. I don't think any of the three of them would go much out of their way to see Bush tried (what a mess when there are much more important issues to get to first), but if forced to confront such a problem, Obama has outspokenly challenged the president more consistently than the other two and when he's done it when it wasn't politically palatable.

Unlike Hillary Clinton, who's opinions and statements have often seemed to reflect the polls. I could see Hillary prosecuting him if a majority of Americans were clamoring for it but talk about polarizing the country and the White House from the get-go otherwise... it would hurt her worse than anyone else.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 10:32pm

I can only see Obama acting as Gerald Ford did and pardoning Bush and Cheney, the Ford pardoned Nixon, to spare the country further trauma and allow the healing to begin.

I cannot see him allowing the Democrats to prosecute.

Updated On: 1/25/08 at 10:32 PM

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 10:36pm

Especially when the premise of his campaign is the healing of the divide. I don't really see why Hillary Clinton is any more likely to pursue prosecution for the same reasons Obama wouldn't.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/25/08 at 10:47pm

Hillary would let them fry. So would Gore.