NYT Parrots "Evil Gays" Meme

[MrMidwest]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 8:25am

The New York Times is looking at the "double-edged sword" of campaign donation disclosure laws. That debate is a worthy one, touching on questions of transparency, privacy and personal safety. Unfortunately, to make a case for the potential safety concerns, they unquestioningly accept the "Evil Gays" meme promoted by the Yes on 8 campaign. It insinuates that the opponents of California Prop 8 are the menace to be feared. Prop 8 was the measure that stripped same-sex couples of the right to marry.


FOR the backers of Proposition 8, the state ballot measure to stop single-sex couples from marrying in California, victory has been soured by the ugly specter of intimidation.

A Web site takes names and ZIP codes of donors supporting the measure and overlays data on a map.

Some donors to groups supporting the measure have received death threats and envelopes containing a powdery white substance, and their businesses have been boycotted.

The targets of this harassment blame a controversial and provocative Web site, eightmaps.com.


AS IF passing Prop 8 isn't itself harassment of the highest order.

AS IF the Yes on Prop 8 people didn't themselves use donor lists before the election to try to extort money from business that donated to NO on 8.

AS IF the accusations of haters that the white powder was mailed by their opponents are meaningful in the least (where are the arrests then, NYT?). Get a clue, NYT: the homobigots blame gays for everything from 9-11 to Katrina. I'm sure if you asked Ken Starr, he'd blame his hemorrhoids on us too.

NYT lists as "intimidation" the boycott of businesses associated with Yes on 8 donors but fails to mention that boycotts are the favorite pass time of anti-gay organizations. I guess when the homobigots do it, it's "voting with your wallet". This is a terribly shoddy job by the NYT. It is never appropriate to buy in to the "Gayz R Eevil" drone of the GOP/haters. And it's just plain pathetic that the journalist failed to do his homework.
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[Unknown User]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 10:34am

So it's wrong to lose your job because of who you sleep with, but OK if to lose your job because of who you donate to?

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 10:37am

exactly, joe! you're getting it now! fight to be as reactionary as those you fight!

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 11:25am

"but OK if to lose your job because of who you donate to?"

Who's advocating that?

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 11:42am

the evil gays, reg. i know, you probably don't know about it because you're one of the good ones. well, at least as good as a gay can be while still being gay and all. but there's a group of 'em out there forming up posses and administering vigilante justice. they're hunting down the supporters of prop 8 and giving 'em hemp neckties, if y'get m'drift. clearly they must be stopped.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 11:49am

Well, I do my best, Papa.

But JoeKv said "So . . . ," which seemed to be a response to someone (MrMidwest?) advocating it. I just didn't see it.

Unless you're saying boycotting pro-Prop 8 donor businesses is the same as firing people.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 12:06pm

i gotta quit opening mrmidwest's thread. i invariably think that the text within is his.

but really, what makes this any different than psycho pro-life sites posting the particulars of doctors who perform abortions. i seem to recall a slight flap over that at some point.

besides, to me the meat of the story was the debate over whether the disclosure laws that make sites like the one mentioned in the article possible wil actually discourage participation in the political process.

it reminded me of watching a union official interviewed about the efca. when asked about the potential for employees to be dicrimidated against and intimidated once the secret ballot was abolished he responded, "but, we would never do that."

[Unknown User]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 12:08pm

Scott Ekern.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 2:13pm

Who said it's wrong to lose your job because of who you sleep with? When did actual homosexual activity become a pre-requisite for anti-gay discrimination? Hell, I was being beat up for being a faggot long before I even saw another dick.

I don't advocate violence. I don't advocate people being fired for being bigots (although we argue about it all day long, in reality Scott Eckert wasn't fired. He was a pansy and patsy who couldn't even stand up to his convictions, much like EVERYONE whose involvement in the passage of Prop 8 turned out to be. "Oh, I didn't realize THAT was what I was voting on." "Oh, poor me, I've never done anything to anybody but contribute money to limit the rights of people who don't affect me in any, way shape or form.")

Indeed, if Scottie really lost his job because of a donation he made, why doesn't he get a lawyer and sue? He's a "straight" white Christian, so he's certainly got the moral high ground, right?

But Papa and JoeKv are right. The damn uppity faggots with their panties in a snit are just a bunch of terrorists, no better than those who bomb abortion clinics. Toleranting the intolerant is what we should be doing. We've been on the receiving end of Jesus-based hate and discrimination for, well, ever, but we STILL haven't learned our place.

Personally, I sometimes wish gay sex, gay marriage, gay whatever WOULD just become punishable by law all of the country. The the fundies can move on to whatever their next cause can be and we can all sit back and watch the chickens come home to roost.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 2:18pm

phyllis, get to the back of the gallows. you wait yer turn to be hanged, ya dadgum uppity fuss.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 3:08pm

Sorry, they'll have to wait to hang me. I'm too busy preparing my presentation "Shut up, Jews! How antisemitism is woven into the fabric of our great nation and why Jews and Jew-sympathizers are as bad as those who hate them"

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 3:14pm

clearly there is hope for you yet. now if only we can get you up in a helicopter to shoot some wolves.

Updated On: 2/9/09 at 03:14 PM

[Calvin]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 3:18pm

I plan to do my best Vincent Price laugh before the trapdoor drops.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 3:18pm

don't you always laugh before you go down?

[Calvin]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 3:32pm

Yes, but it's usually more of a Dudley Moore laugh.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 3:37pm

I can do a Demi Moore laugh if I'm paid enough.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 3:39pm

n. It insinuates that the opponents of California Prop 8 are the menace to be feared.

Whooooooooaaaaaa...

I read the article yesterday morning over coffee. It doesn't insinuate anything of the sort.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 3:43pm

I opened the thread hoping it was about a rescue bird taught to say bad things by a homophobic former-owner.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 4:05pm

I read it over a muffin and wondered how many people were targeted with powdery white substance.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 4:10pm

because you ain't seen nuthin' 'til you're down on a muffin.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 4:15pm

I'm been down on a muffin. I found it not unpleasant at all.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 4:15pm

he said "you ain't seen nothin' till you're down on a muffin
then you're sure to be a-changin' your ways"

Everyone! Walk This Way!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 4:38pm

Just gimme a kiss. Like this.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 4:48pm

I had to look up the lyrics because I couldn't really believe the line was "Down on a muffin." IT is, but more than that, their grammar is really atrocious. "All the times I can reminisce?" "You be swinging like you just didn't care?" "Was it me she was foolin
cause she knew what she was doin And I know love was here to stay?"

For Shame, Steven.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 2/9/09 at 5:00pm

I've heard about these evil gay parrots in NYC. They live in the trees in Central Park.