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#1

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

This is so incredibly wrong. No offense to Zoe Saldana, who I think is a very talented actress, but why was she, a light skinned actress of Dominican descent picked to play the legendary African American singer Nina Simone?!?! The fact that they had to darken her skin with makeup is disturbing and offensive to me. Blackface in any way, shape or form should not be happening in this day and age and should not be tolerated.

I'm sure there were many talented dark skinned African American actresses that they could have chosen to play this role.

This is just unacceptable to me and I will not support this film by seeing it.

View Trailer and read related article HERE

FYI: This is CarlosAlberto. I am using this account, which I created as a joke around the time of the Anthony Weiner scandal because I cannot log on to my account. Don't mean to mislead anyone.

Updated On: 3/3/16 at 01:19 PM

#2

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

I'm glad Nina's daughter (whom I saw play Mimi like six times and whose talent I ADORE) is continuing the legacy of being furious about everything.


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#3

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

It was only a matter of time. I'll try to keep things pithy for once. African-American actors have portrayed brown and olive-skinned historical characters on screen before, e.g. Lou Gossett Jr. as the late Egyptian leader Muhammad Anwar al-Sadat in SADAT (1983). See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086229/ Zoe has been honest in both print and televised interviews about her early struggles getting cast as either Latina or American due to her complexion and name. She's never been the go-to gal for English or Spanish-speaking Latina roles and landing any role that even obliquely reads African-American has not been without controversy, e.g. Nyota Uhura of Star Trek fame. I'm looking forward to seeing the biopic.


#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.

Updated On: 3/3/16 at 02:36 PM

#4

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

Javero, I'd agree that it's beyond unfortunate that Saldana's playing any role that even obliquely reads African-American might inspire controversy. But Nina Simone isn't any role.

How do you feel about Saldana darkening her skin and wearing prosthetics for the role? And re: your example of Gossett as Sadat, would you agree that Sadat's life story was not defined by issues of race and color to any where near the extent that Simone's was?

For these reasons, is it any wonder that many are finding this casting outrageous?

Updated On: 3/3/16 at 03:23 PM

#5

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

There have been many Afro Cubans, Mulattos, Dark Skinned Puerto Ricans, etc that have played African American roles. Irene Cara (Puerto Rican) and Laz Alonso (Cuban) are just two that come to mind but that's not the issue.

The issue is that she had to don black face.

Updated On: 3/3/16 at 03:38 PM

#6

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

"How do you feel about Saldana darkening her skin and wearing prosthetics for the role?"

"The issue is that she had to don black face."

I know this is going to strike some of you as odd coming from me;..I have no problem with Zoe heavily made up and applying prosthetics to realistically portray the character in question. To me it's akin to Cicely Tyson portraying Jane Pittman at an advanced age or similarly Lynn Whitfield as Josephine Baker. This is not an indictment leveled against anyone here but thanks to the primaries I'm plumb out of things to get outraged over. I don't believe Zoe would attempt to make a mockery of Nina Simone. From what I've read of her through the years and from her numerous interviews, this is most likely Zoe's way of both paying homage and honing her craft.


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Updated On: 3/3/16 at 03:55 PM

#7

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

Soooooooooooo pissed about Kidman's The Hours nose now.


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#8

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

Namo, if you want to be condescending to my feelings and the feelings of those people, especially people of color who do have a problem with Zoe Saldana being cast in this role go right ahead, humor yourself, but it goes much deeper than just a prosthetic nose.

Simone's dark complexion and traditionally African features were central to her identity and concept of black beauty, so casting someone with Saldana's more European appearance is galling, said Miriam J. Petty, an assistant professor in the radio-television-film department at Northwestern University.

It's disrespectful and demonstrates the depth of the ignorance of the person making the film of the very subject of the film.

Updated On: 3/4/16 at 07:45 AM

#9

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

I didn't respond to all of the questions from Carlos and henrikegerman because this is such a complex topic. Do we want to return to the percentages game where persons of African descent are concerned? I'm neither Hispanic nor Latino nor Arab so I have no idea whether self-identifying as black (or being relegated to that category by default) is a burden in either context. But I will suggest that African-Americans are not the only group in the US struggling to close the income equality gap, achievement gap, and digital divide.

What intrigues me about Zoe is that she's quite comfortable in her own skin despite not always being warmly embraced by either the African-American or Latino community at large. She was eviscerated by several notable native Colombians for her lead role in COLOMBIANA. See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1657507/ From what I gleaned from univision.com during the movie's premiere, many Colombians were concerned that as una trigueña Zoe didn't adequately represent the traditional Colombian standard of beauty. It's my understanding the most Colombians of African descent reside in a few overcrowded ethnic enclaves along the coast. Several of the univision message-board comments in Spanish were downright vulgar & rather racist. Her earlier turn as Uhuru in STAR TREK was met with scorn from many in the African-American community for another set of reasons. I'm not here to throw her a pity party but would like to point out that neither Cameron Diaz nor Sofia Vergara nor Jennifer Lopez has faced the myriad challenges that Zoe has had to overcome to find decent work in Hollywood, but I digress.

In short, how black must one be to portray a historical or fictional African-American character? And if African-Americans can portray black, brown, and olive-skinned characters from other identity groups, shouldn't there be some reciprocity?


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#10

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

Robert Englund made a fortune changing the color of his skin and using prosthetics to make himself more believable as a burn victim. Maybe it's not the same. I dunno.

#11

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

I understand what the issue is. I'm sure Lisa Simone is acting in good faith and has no other agenda when tweeting mean things attacking another woman. And I share in the rage at the prosthetics community. It's given me a sense of what people with real adamantium claws must feel whenever they look at Hugh Jackman. They don't have the freedom of a CGI department.


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#12

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

But Lisa Simone didn't tweet those things according to this Hollywood Reporter article - - - > HERE

The prosthetic nose isn't what bothers me, what does bother me is the darkening of the skin and no Jordan it's not the same thing. But I'm sure you knew that.

Anyway I'm done discussing this topic on this particular forum.

Condescend and snark away too all your b!tchy hearts content.

Updated On: 3/4/16 at 04:36 PM

#13

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

Zoe Kazan is going to be an amazing Nina! I can't wait!

More casting news:

http://stubhillnews.com/2016/02/24/diaz-angelou/


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#14

Nina Starring Zoe Saldana

I feel bad because I just read and article and it seems that Lisa Stroud thinks biopics are historically accurate. I watched the trailer. It looks good to me. It's not like she's Mickey Rooney playing a Chinaman.

Also, Simone is pissed at what somebody did with the story but "a family friend" is allowed to tweet out crap slamming Saldana. Whattheeffevs.


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Updated On: 3/4/16 at 10:59 PM

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