North Carolina's Amendment 1 Passes — Page 2
#27
Posted: 5/9/12 at 3:04pm
"What you can expect, is that little by little, they'll get there. Little by little, they'll learn. Little by little, they stop being afraid."
And in the meantime, these unsophisticated bigoted idiots get to vote to deprive other citizens of equal protection under the law, mostly in the name of a book of fairy tales. Revolting.
And in the meantime, these unsophisticated bigoted idiots get to vote to deprive other citizens of equal protection under the law, mostly in the name of a book of fairy tales. Revolting.
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#28
Posted: 5/9/12 at 3:06pm
In one day, we lost North Carolina and gained the president of the United States.
#29
Posted: 5/9/12 at 3:43pm
"And in the meantime, these unsophisticated bigoted idiots get to vote to deprive other citizens of equal protection under the law, mostly in the name of a book of fairy tales. Revolting."
Yes, Roscoe. Many of my kith and kin down there took to the polls in the defense of "God's Law".
Yes, Roscoe. Many of my kith and kin down there took to the polls in the defense of "God's Law".
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
Updated On: 5/9/12 at 03:43 PM
#30
Posted: 5/9/12 at 3:46pm
It is North Carolina after all. I am amazed the vote wasn't 100 to 1.
"There's no damn business like show business - you have to smile to keep from throwing up." - Billie Holiday
#31
Posted: 5/9/12 at 3:57pm
Well, it wasn't. It wasn't even close to 100 to 1.
And it wasn't cousin-marrying hillbillies who walk into poles who voted for similar laws in 30 other states, either.
And it wasn't cousin-marrying hillbillies who walk into poles who voted for similar laws in 30 other states, either.
#32
Posted: 5/9/12 at 3:59pm
Or, rather, they weren't North Carolinians.
#33
Posted: 5/9/12 at 4:10pm
#34
Posted: 5/9/12 at 4:49pm
That is some seriously fabulous churchin' goin' on! Living!
#35
Posted: 5/9/12 at 4:59pm
I wish Karen and the gang had gone to that church!
#36
Posted: 5/9/12 at 6:06pm
OMG That sermon and the reactions of the clergy gives me chills. More, please!
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#37
Posted: 5/10/12 at 1:10am
As folks back home say, he preached that piece!
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
#38
Posted: 5/10/12 at 6:11am
Well here is something I never thought I'd say:
That sermon just made my day.
That sermon just made my day.
....but the world goes 'round
#39
Posted: 5/10/12 at 10:36pm
"The greatest divide in this country is not between liberal and conservative, but between those who feel that they should have a say in the love lives of strangers, and those who do not."--Miss Manners.
I can't think of a better way to frame the gay marriage argument--or a simpler, and, dare I say, "traditional" one. How can anyone be so arrogant as to claim they have a right to interfere in the marriages of total strangers who have done them no harm?
Take heart, everyone. Even if the worst happens, the human impulse to love and mate is a lot older than any government or any religion. You still get to decide whom you marry, whether a narrow and shortsighted government chooses to recognize it or not. There are a number of happy and successful same-sex marriages that thrived on this principle--Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas, for example, had one of the most famous, celebrated, and publically approved marriages of the last century. I know we want to move on and have our marriages legitimized alongside our straight friends, and I hope this will happen soon--but some of the comments on this thread have depressed me beyond belief. Please don't give in to anger and despair over North Carolina.
I can't think of a better way to frame the gay marriage argument--or a simpler, and, dare I say, "traditional" one. How can anyone be so arrogant as to claim they have a right to interfere in the marriages of total strangers who have done them no harm?
Take heart, everyone. Even if the worst happens, the human impulse to love and mate is a lot older than any government or any religion. You still get to decide whom you marry, whether a narrow and shortsighted government chooses to recognize it or not. There are a number of happy and successful same-sex marriages that thrived on this principle--Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas, for example, had one of the most famous, celebrated, and publically approved marriages of the last century. I know we want to move on and have our marriages legitimized alongside our straight friends, and I hope this will happen soon--but some of the comments on this thread have depressed me beyond belief. Please don't give in to anger and despair over North Carolina.
I ask in all honesty/What would life be?/Without a song and a dance, what are we?/So I say "Thank you for the music/For giving it to me."
#41
Posted: 5/16/12 at 1:02pm
As awful as I think the passing of Amendment 1 was, I never understood the apparent notion that the passing of similar laws was something that "happened" in other states, whereas this was something NC "did."
#42
Posted: 5/16/12 at 1:08pm
I think for some people, it's easier to just wash their hands and say, "Well, that's the South. What do you expect?"
Even when Prop 8 happened, I couldn't help but (kind of selfishly) think, "You do realize, New Yorkers and other folks who are losing your sh*t over California, that this has happened and is happening all of the country"?
Even when Prop 8 happened, I couldn't help but (kind of selfishly) think, "You do realize, New Yorkers and other folks who are losing your sh*t over California, that this has happened and is happening all of the country"?
Updated On: 5/16/12 at 01:08 PM
#43
Posted: 5/16/12 at 1:11pm
Exactly. But folks felt sorry for CA, whereas all I kept hearing after the NC vote was stuff about hillbillies marrying their cousins.
The truth is that it's a disgrace wherever it happens (including, of course, NC).
The truth is that it's a disgrace wherever it happens (including, of course, NC).
#44
Posted: 5/16/12 at 1:12pm
Oh, sure. I know what you're saying. I think it's equally appalling. And I thought it was appalling long before Prop 8, too.
#45
Posted: 5/16/12 at 1:15pm
I do know some people thought that NC had taken it the furthest, barring not only marriage but any other recognized union between same-sex couples, but no, that's been happening in other states, too. That's why I don't believe these laws are about anything other than sticking it to gay people - remember how the anti side would crow that it was just about the word "marriage"? Yeah, no.
#46
Posted: 5/16/12 at 2:11pm
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#47
Posted: 5/16/12 at 3:24pm
This is from a church in MA...a state that does allow same sex marriage
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This is the church's facebook page in case anyone wanted to let them know how they feel about the sign.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/St-Francis-Xavier-Parish-Acushnet/89678001047
In better news, RI's Gov Chaffee signed an executive order yesterday declaring that RI must honor same sex marriages of those married in other places. The good thing about this is that it will force the issue to a head. Being that someone can live and get married in MA and be treated as a valid married couple when they visit RI. Yet I, who live in RI cannot get married myself. This is begging for a lawsuit that will force a court decision of the issue.
This is Chafee's facebook page in case you want to let him know how you feel about his actions.
https://www.facebook.com/lchafee
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This is the church's facebook page in case anyone wanted to let them know how they feel about the sign.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/St-Francis-Xavier-Parish-Acushnet/89678001047
In better news, RI's Gov Chaffee signed an executive order yesterday declaring that RI must honor same sex marriages of those married in other places. The good thing about this is that it will force the issue to a head. Being that someone can live and get married in MA and be treated as a valid married couple when they visit RI. Yet I, who live in RI cannot get married myself. This is begging for a lawsuit that will force a court decision of the issue.
This is Chafee's facebook page in case you want to let him know how you feel about his actions.
https://www.facebook.com/lchafee
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